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[-] [email protected] 37 points 3 months ago

Reminds me of the great anecdote: After the casting of Patrick Stewart, someone said to Gene Roddenberry, 'By the 24th century, won't they have cured baldness?’

Roddenberry replied, 'By the 24th century, they won't care'.

[-] [email protected] 17 points 3 months ago

Curing a disability at birth is not eugenics. Wtf?

[-] [email protected] 14 points 3 months ago

The Eugenics Wars happened with a bunch of genetically modified super soldiers that were created through selective breeding. The term 'Eugenics' often just gets used as short hand within the Trek universe for all types of Genetic Modification in general as genetic modification is illegal in the Federation.

[-] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago

Aye, I was just having this discussion the other day. Star Trek is humanist, not transhumanist.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

if it's not life-threatening it can easily turn into eugenics. if my autism was deleted at birth, I wouldn't have consented to that procedure

[-] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

I would have. In a heartbeat.

[-] [email protected] -5 points 3 months ago

YIKES sounds like you have some problems to work through. keep that to yourself though instead of projecting it onto the disabled community at large

[-] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

YIKES sounds like you have some problems to work through

Are you for real? Just because I don't like my disability you say I have "problems"? Would you say that to someone with a congenital heart defect? Or cerebral palsy? JFC! I'm not allowed to not enjoy my disability? Go fuck yourself. Judegemental asshole. Keep your opinions about my disability to yourself.

[-] HobbitFoot 4 points 3 months ago

There is a minor arc with Bashir in the later half of DS9 where it comes out that he's been genetically altered as a child to become smarter. It gets a lot into the ethics of changing someone who couldn't consent to being altered and also deals with others who didn't have as successful of a modification.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

Wouldn't it technically be if they are genetic disorders? To fix it you'd have to be doing some degree of intentional directing of human genes.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

I suppose. I honestly wasn't even thinking of gene therapy. Not all cures for disabilities would necessarily require gene therapy.

[-] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago

Wait a sec, what was Tilly’s disability? I can’t remember, I just thought she had a bit of a shit upbringing with her mum.

Also, don’t think I’d bring up Julian against ableists in this argument 🙄

[-] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

I would imagine they are referring to her being neurodivergent. Think it was a single line in the first or second episode (when her and the main character are introduced as roommates). Easy to miss for sure.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

Depends on your definition of 'disability', but I guess they meant because she's visibly overweight, but that doesn't mean she can't be in Starfleet.

[-] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago

Idiot: well why can't they just alter genes to do away with disabilities?

Me remembering the group of genetically modified individuals who came out with more neurological problems: they have several episodes on why you can't do that

[-] HobbitFoot 4 points 3 months ago

they have several episodes on why you ~~can't~~ shouldn't do that

Fixed that for you.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

one thing that tech bros forget to take into account is that disability is simply part of being human. if we truly wanted to eliminate disability from the human condition we'd have to eradicate humanity –Terminator style–.

why do you ask? because disability is inevitable once you age. aging is part of becoming disabled. accidents are acts of fate that can render you disabled at any moment. can you eliminate bad luck from the universe? I know Elon supporters would love to claim otherwise, alas, you cannot.

this is similar to the weirdos that only adopt able-bodied babies and dump them once an accident happens or they discover they were disabled all along but passed the eugenics screening process. the conclusion is, if you can't love your child regardless of health status then you don't really love them.

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