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Windows 11-24H2 installations with certain update statuses can no longer install further updates. Only a manual correction will help.

Last Christmas, a problem with Windows 11 24H2 installations became known that they cannot install further updates if they were installed from an installation medium with certain update statuses. Microsoft has now given up looking for an automated solution to this problem or developing a fix-it tool – The only option available to those affected is manual correction.

Microsoft has confirmed this decision by setting the entry in the Windows Release Health announcements to "resolved". Specifically, the problem description is that a Windows 11 installation on version 24H2, which was installed from a CD (sic) or USB drive with integrated October or November updates from 2024, can no longer install any further security updates. This also includes media created with the Windows Media Creation Tool at those times. However, installations that have downloaded the updates via Windows Update and applied them do not have this problem.

Windows update dropouts: only manual solution available

The entry on the problem from Microsoft has had the status "resolved" since the end of last week. However, it still only contains the previous workaround as a solution: The problem can be solved by overinstalling with an installation medium that contains at least the security updates from December 2024 – i.e. was created from December 10, 2024 –. Microsoft does not mention a fix-it tool, script or other options, such as registry changes.

Such an updated medium can be created with the Windows Media Creation Tool, which is available on Microsoft's Windows 11 download website. This either downloads an ISO file that can be transferred to DVD or creates a bootable USB stick with the Windows installation; this should have at least 8 GB of space.

cross-posted from: https://lemm.ee/post/55122353

https://www.heise.de/en/news/Windows-11-24H2-update-problems-Microsoft-gives-up-on-finding-a-solution-10275962.html

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 hours ago

And yet again: install Linux. I've been a happy lojix desktop user forever 2 decades now. Linux was ready for normal users 10 years ago, it was more than ready 5 years ago, and it is definitely beyond ready today

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 hours ago

What a hot mess Windows has become. It's over, Microsoft. Give it up. Your precious hacks on top of hacks on top of half-ass fixes on top of even more hacks of half-ass fixes has finally become unfixable.

It's time to move on.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 14 hours ago

That manual correction: installing Linux.

[–] [email protected] 104 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (24 children)

I'm frequently told that Linux is hard and you need to be a tech guru to use it, yet every week I see 1-2 articles of issues in windows you need to do some bullshit to fix, and in my own use of it I've ran into issues (especially after doing an update) that I just don't run into on Linux or MacOS.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

Windows is easy, bro, you just need to run this shady PowerShell script to get rid of ads, run this random EXE from github.ru to disable telemetry, install ClassicShell to make the UI actually usable, install a million utilities for basic features (each from a separate site, of course ; the centralized Windows Store is full of malwarei), then pray sfc /scannow fixes your system after every update.

BTW, don't bother searching for a solution to your problems other than "retry, reboot, reinstall" ; even certified MS professionals don't know how anything works.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 17 hours ago (4 children)

I've been on Win10 for years, never had a single problem with any update whatsoever.

Still not subjecting myself to W11 though. As soon as Win10 support ends, I'll make the switch.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 14 hours ago

Windows 10 had an update that notoriously broke a lot of games a while back and the only solution was to manually roll it back.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

I recommend setting up whatever your alternative is a little before committing to ease the transition a bit. It's different, and it's good to fall back to something else for a bit if you get frustrated.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

It's been the same on win 11. The only experience i have had was at work. I work closely with the updating team, and there have been a few times where things would break like printers, and we would revert the updates to stop it from going to everyone and uninstall. Sometimes, that meant a help desk guy had to go to the pc or remote in to do it manually. I've been there 19 years now, and it's happened twice?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

I've had my enterprise-distro linux machines updating by cron for 22 years. I had two glitches in those 20 years, too, just like you. But in addition to my two glitches - I had to bring in one unlisted dep for cobbler and also correct the smb.conf's old format on another box - in 20 years, I also got

  • out-of-the-box
  • do-nothing patch runs
  • trivial back-out if I needed it

And while I know your numbers are excellent, I simply haven't had to DO ANYTHING since deploying some boxes. They patch, they bounce later on a weekend if they need it ('needs-rebooting' is centralized because ALL software installs are) and I can patch while under load because linux write-locks instead of read-locking. My effort is to check 'some time later' and ensure things are working in ways nagios doesn't catch.

Printer issues? Nah. Supply thing. App not working because java/perl/python/DLLs rug-pulled a dependency? Proper packages list hard dependencies, so that cobbler thing is a bug not an expectation. Network offline? nah. Reboots? timed at 3 minute downtime (1 min before systemd), or 7 minutes if I just updated 1gb of gitlab install because it starts like a manatee.

It's really a different world; and while I've teased the heck out of my windows peers, it's a true statement.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 hours ago

Absolutely, I don't disagree with your statement at all. I work heavily in systems administration and recently transitioned to networking. I deal with Linux systems, servers, vm's, Azure daily, and for stability nothing beats Linux. I just tend to agree with the statement above commenting on how you always see these Windows articles, yet almost none actually affect you in the end.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 12 hours ago

Welp, guess I won't be able to fix my Windows install

[–] [email protected] 10 points 13 hours ago

I made the switch too! I bought a MacBook! After 40 years of MS OSes, Outlook-online and Windows 11 made me quit. And so far so good!

[–] [email protected] 47 points 18 hours ago

I manually corrected mine with Mint, 10/10, do recommend.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 15 hours ago

Microsoftatemyface

[–] [email protected] 32 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

I REALLY want to see normies "manually correct" their machines after bragging with Windows supremacy for so long

[–] [email protected] 49 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

normies

bragging with Windows supremacy

I don't think that's as common as you think it is. Most Windows users see Windows as part of the computer, a tool to get the job done. As a DIY'er (basically a tool normie) I don't brag about the supremacy of my Kobalt tools, I just drill the damn hole

[–] [email protected] 7 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

As far as I know a lot of Windows users are unhappy with Windows itself but can't/won't make the switch for various reasons. I don't mean them, they are usually very nice.

I mean those people who judge you for not using Windows because "Linux is crap because of drivers and updates" (as if those were uncomplicated/unproblematic on Windows) and then blame every tiny inconvenience on Linux. One dude I used to play games with topped it when they blamed my Linux distro for him experiencing lags claiming Linux was "messing with the game server" (before that they used to say "switch back to Windows" every time I encountered lags or similar).

[–] [email protected] 6 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Most users could work with Linux without problems. They are using their browser, maybe a mail client and maybe some office suite to write stuff. If you mention this on the internet, there will always be someone who shows up and complains that his personal workflow with some obscure software that powers the nuclear reactor that he is running as hobby in his home won't work with Linux.

It's kind of the same with discussions about commuting/bicycles/cars. If you're discussing that maybe more people could commute by bike, the same people will show up and complain that this would not be possible for them because they live on a remote mountain top in the scorching desert far away from civilization and it's raining every day where they live.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

MS Office's lie of WYSIWYG and the idiotic requirements to follow absurdly complicated formatting guidelines and them not rendering the same from system to system or even correctly is the most brutal offender. If we used simplistic markdown without page-breaking in the GUI, there could've been no point to buy Office, but we don't, and itso hsppens I had encountered many times where some arbitrary cosmetic request like 'you can't have less than X lines per page' caused people toy with formatting or rewriting their documents... only for it showing differently on the other side >:ç Thus leading to even worse things like PDF.

It being the most used piece of office software renders the voluntary switch close to impossible.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Let's be honest: That totally is a monopolistic tactic of Microsoft and regulators would do great to force this open. Force them to release a Linux Office. Force them to really make their file format transparent so that everybody can write working parsers

[–] [email protected] 3 points 14 hours ago

I agree. They need to be either pressured or abandoned.

I feel like they would need to rewrite it completely in that case, partially because no one knows how their legacy code works and partially because it's completely broken.

Google with it's billions and a promise of more free data did great with how office formats work. They set some little limits of what user can do compared to MS Word so ending up with a broken table or whatever is harder, and they aslo strong-armed their way into adoption with their obvious mechanics of real-time collaboration.

I'm not sure about MS users coming to Linux, but their marketshare was already bled by Google. And if in some scenario Google releases their own internal XML format for these, I guess it'd work too.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

If you can only do X and Y is marginally similar how easy do you think it is to switch to Y?
I have customers that are unable to handle cables I described in great detail. They are afraid. Trying to push them to do anything is hard af.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 15 hours ago

Some of them just don't want to take responsibility if they do something wrong under your instructions.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 18 hours ago (1 children)
  1. Manually insert USB drive with bootable Linux ISO of choice
  2. Profit!
[–] [email protected] 3 points 14 hours ago

2 is usually install, using a live version of Linux kinda sucks.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 19 hours ago (4 children)

"Consent required for free use" I doubt this is legal in the EU.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 17 hours ago

I just copy pasted the article into the post so people can read it without having to consent

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