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[–] 439 points 2 years ago (45 children)

I mean the US is certainly in distress

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  • [–] 181 points 2 years ago (12 children)

    Definitely. Do we know if the people who wanted a criminal moron in charge are still cheering him on, or are they starting to catch on to the fact that his plan always was to thoroughly fuck everyone over? Well, everyone but his clique.

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  • [–] 142 points 2 years ago (6 children)

    They're still cheering. No other awareness to be had

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  • [–] 77 points 2 years ago* (4 children)

    As long as the right people get hurt they're happy.

    Republicans would shit their own pants just to make us smell it.

    They're gonna be a lot less happy when they try putting armed citizens in camps and they get fucking shot.

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  • [–] 47 points 2 years ago

    They're completely caught in the misinfo and still cheering him on. Anyone getting hurt must have deserved it and if they're getting hurt it just shows how important it is to hurt the others back.

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    [–] 399 points 2 years ago (37 children)

    That seems like a very bad sign. Someone wanted a message to get out to the public, but I'm not entirely sure what can be effectively done about it. Credit to the person with the balls to send out the warning, though.

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  • [–] 195 points 2 years ago* (14 children)

    I'm not entirely sure what can be effectively done about it.

    History offers no control groups; there is no "right" way to proceed. What's certain is that "nothing" is not the answer.

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  • [–] 37 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    History offers one very good "right" way, imo.

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  • [–] 29 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I'm not even joking but if this doesn't happen there's no hope for the future. we're past the point of simply prosecuting and hoping they get some time in prison. examples need to be made so others know that just because the supreme court said it's legal to do whatever the fuck you want doesn't mean you're getting away with it from the public.

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    [–] 185 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Kudos to the person who is sending the correct message. Everyone who believes in protecting the US Constitution should fly the US flag upside down.

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  • [–] 161 points 2 years ago (6 children)

    Imagine being the person running this up the pole at the fucking state department.

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    [–] 160 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (110 children)

    I don't understand what it's going to take for someone to do something. Protests are not going to work when they're holding all our money, services, rights, data, etc hostage, and threatening all our public servants. We already had a hard time protesting before this, because health care is tied to employment. It's not a coincidence that they're going after Medicare and Medicaid. They want an entire nation of indentured servants. Unable to own anything, including our own freedom. When we can't work anymore we can just go die in the wilderness like animals I guess. Hmm where have we heard that before?

    Everyone is terrified and exhausted. It seems pretty evident that the election was outright stolen, and I have a hard time believing nobody in power suspected something that many of us immediately called, not with the mountains of evidence that's been stacking up for months, years even. So why didn't they do anything? Why did they wait until Trump was sworn in to even talk about it?

    I see Canadians online talking about Americans like we chose this. But we didn't, it was forced upon us, and we're begging for help! Who can we turn to if not our allies? What is going on???

    Edit: To those claiming that I'm just as bad as the J6ers, that the election was not tampered with and Harris just ran a terrible campaign; whether unwittingly or not, you are part of the problem. You're falling for the suppression and misinformation tactics, or you're facilitating them. I'm editing my comment to compile some links, but let me be clear, I fully expect that you're going to deny these facts as well, and move the goalposts again. My refusal to engage is not a concession, it's me protecting what little emotional energy I have left.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_interference_in_the_2024_United_States_elections

    Some great information about voter suppression from a trusted journalist: https://www.gregpalast.com/trump-lost-vote-suppression-won/

    This guy's compilation is great

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/eligible-voters-swept-up-conservative-activists-purge-voter-rolls/

    https://www.youtube.com/live/284VFHrO8Nc

    https://sos.ga.gov/news/georgias-2024-statewide-risk-limiting-audit-confirms-voting-system-accuracy ~ please note the date (November 20th) and how soon after the election this was, in business days. This link should be taken into consideration with a few more facts, including what we know about their flawed 2020 audit and Trump's famous phone call. Here is a good examination of the audit showing two very important oddities that should be further examined: https://goudanachos.github.io/pages/georgia-rla-discrepancy-analysis-2024/

    https://www.newsweek.com/democrats-voting-machines-trump-investigation-2018890

    https://www.reuters.com/world/us/fake-bomb-threats-linked-russia-briefly-close-georgia-polling-locations-2024-11-05/

    https://english.elpais.com/usa/2025-01-06/musk-and-putins-dual-interference-in-europe.html ~ an article about just some of the countries where there are suspected or substantiated instances of election interference.

    Yes, this is what NATO is for. It is an alliance meant to prevent fascism from taking hold. Just because it's only ever been used in non member countries doesn't mean it can't be used on us, especially if Trump continues to threaten allies. Talking about this leading to WWIII is a strawman argument. You don't know that will happen and it is not a good reason to not be asking for help from our allies. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/NATO

    To those who think comparisons to Hitler and Nazi Germany are hyperbole:

    https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2025/01/hitler-germany-constitution-authoritarianism/681233/

    I fully expect that some of the bad actors from reddit are here as well. For anyone else reading this: Question their motives. If they're trying to deny what we can see with our own eyes, their intentions are not good.

    I will continue to add links as I'm able.

    Watch this if you haven't already: https://youtu.be/CVgNJf6CsBA

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  • [–] 63 points 2 years ago* (9 children)

    People keep saying this, but WHO?

    Who are you talking about?

    Who is this "somebody" you keep talking about showing up to save us?

    Look, nobody is coming to save us, and asking somebody else to risk harm on your behalf is selfish.

    If we object, it isn't on somebody else to show up and save us, it's on us.

    If you aren't willing to make the moves yourself, who the fuck are you to ask somebody else to.

    Nobody is coming to save us, folks. It's either us, me and you, or it's nobody.

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  • [–] 48 points 2 years ago (12 children)

    In 2016, people thought that Trump was the problem. That if Trump left, we could have civility restored to the electoral process. Defeating Trump won't solve the problem because he isn't it - it is the electorate. The voters need to SEE what will happen when this or that occur.

    Deport all the immigrants, see the damage that brings, then bring them back with legal protections this time.

    Cancel all the science, see how far behind we get, then bring it back with all the funding to make the next moonshot.

    Get rid of all fogien aid, watch as our global power dimishes, the vote to bring it back with a clear and true purpose other than empire building.

    The people don't know WHY these things are important, and are unwilling to listen or learn. Thus, the only teacher is to experience. But to quote Trump: "There will be some pain" when doing it.

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  • [–] 37 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    I don't disagree with you and I would love it if people had to experience the consequences of their poor decisions and learn hard lessons that they've been evading for years. The problem is that millions of innocents are and will be caught in the crosshairs. This is a matter of life or death for many people who did not vote for him and it is unconscionable to allow all those people to die just so a bunch of loud racist hillbillies with lead poisoning can learn a lesson.

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  • [–] 44 points 2 years ago* (14 children)

    It wasn't stolen and it wasn't forced on you. Depressingly enough, turkeys, it seems, do sometimes vote for Christmas. I totally agree with you about the awfulness of the situation but - he told you how he was going to govern, he told you what he was going to do and then he won the election that enables him to do it. You did, as a nation, choose this.

    I don't know how any nation state can really intervene on that basis. Its not like Hitler steam rolling Poland or Putin annexing the Crimea - this isn't an invasion or a hostile takeover, it's an elected President carrying out the will of the people that voted for him.

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  • [–] 26 points 2 years ago (13 children)

    I'm not going to argue with you, I get enough of that on reddit. But there is a literal mountain of evidence, including their own statements and sketchy behavior, hard data, unsecured voting machines, various voter suppression tactics, ballots that were tossed, code that was published online months (possibly more than a year) before the election, and one of the twerps currently taking over the treasury wrote code that can falsify ballots while he was an intern for Musk.

    Also, it is like Hitler, they're using the same exact playbook, and while there are some key differences there is no arguing that this is the exact reason NATO exists. Justin Trudeau could invoke article 4 for threats of invasion. Someone from our government should still be able to invoke article 5. These international agreements exist because when the highest power in the nation is compromised, we need outside help.

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    [–] 98 points 2 years ago (19 children)

    Is this real? Nobody is reporting on it.

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    [–] 73 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    people need to start seriously protesting

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  • [–] 28 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Yeah but we need to stop occupying sidewalks and start occupying gated communities. The fact that protest organizers won't do this says everything you need to know about them - they prefer passive action that does nothing but maintain the status quo. I've been to over 100 protests everything from workers strikes to BLM to Occupy Wall St, and i've learned that occupying a sidewalk that the oligarchs don't walk on does nothing but make the cause look pathetic. We need to protest where the oligarchs will be afraid, anything less is just playing into their hands.

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    [–] 69 points 2 years ago

    Is that the State Department flag or is it a flag near the State Department?

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  • [–] 67 points 2 years ago (8 children)

    It looks like this is the end.

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    [–] 44 points 2 years ago (29 children)

    Here's something we could fix:

    We have no recall option! WTF! We should have such a mechanism. We should ask Congress to enact a law where we the people can recall the president via votes if we can collect enough signatures just like we are able to do for other things.

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    [–] 42 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    The State is in distress. Who will answer the call? Who will come it's aid? We have all been summoned.

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    [–] 28 points 2 years ago

    An actual use. Yeah send help!

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