Also this guy. He's special, and I worry about his kids.
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“Attempting to summons me but I’m alive not dead” made my morning—hilarious. On the flipside, actually dealing with these so willfully obtuse people must be maddening.
Look, I'm not Dracula, so this summons means nothing. Sigh…
Hahaha I am glad you like.
My person = me. Presumably if I punch him I can't get done for assault as he isn't himself and doesn't really exist. Muppet.
His kids I honestly worry about. One time they tried to tow his wife's van because of him trying some dumb cancellation of debt nonsense he was doing. It's one thing when a single weirdo does this, but the kids are actually in danger.
I had a coworker many years ago who had ultra religious parents, who haughtily told her they would not attend her wedding in the future as her boyfriend wasn't Christian enough for them, but they also took out credit cards in her name and racked them up sky high. These fringe belief people are really dangerous.
For most of these that I see, I can kind of make sense of what they are going for, even though it's all complete nonsense but this one has me stumped.
I've worked helpdesk and I got a knack to understand wtf someone is talking about.
You see, you summon spirits of dead people to appear, like when you do a séance.
They are not dead, so they just need an invite.
Which is obviously wrong because you don't get an invite to appear in court, they should have requested an order or a mandate to appear.
It's astonishing to me that people don't give up the whole sovcit thing once it backfires horribly.
"Yeah I sent them a letter saying I don't owe them anything and now I have debt collectors after me."
"I told the courts I can't be summoned cuz I'm a living person and now there's a warrent out for my arrest!"
"I told the cop I'm not a citizen so I'm not beholden to their laws but I just got tased and thrown in jail!!"
"I told the judge I wanted to contest his jurisdiction but he still sentenced me to jail!!! Wtf!!"
At any point does it cross their minds that maybe they were lied to or take advantage of? Not once?? It's so incredible. Stuff like this is why I got really interested in psychology and trying to learn about the human condition but then I found out actual psychology jobs aren't really about that so I work in a metal fabrication shop now. Idk I guess if you're reading this remember to stay hydrated.
Thank you, actually. I'm gonna go get some water
It's astonishing to me that people don't give up the whole sovcit thing once
It is genuinely astonishing. I've tried with these people and seem how far they take it. Literally no limit to the willful ignorance. Even when they have to stand in the pouring rain claiming they're completely dry and the sun is shining.
"The higher, pretentious form of stupidity stands only too often in crass opposition to [its] honorable form. It is not so much lack of intelligence as failure of intelligence, for the reason that it presumes to accomplishments to which it has no right … The stupidity this addresses is no mental illness, yet it is most lethal; a dangerous disease of the mind that endangers life itself. … [S]ince the ‘higher stupidity’ consists not in an inability to understand but in a refusal to understand, any healing or reversal of it will not occur through rational argumentation, through a greater accumulation of data and knowledge, or through experiencing new and different feelings … We may say that the reversal of a spiritual sickness must entail a spiritual cure.”
https://howtobeastoic.wordpress.com/2016/01/19/one-crucial-word/
I've seen exactly one in all my sovcit observations who admitted it didn't work, and they chucked him out of the group. He ended up evicted for not paying rent, because he decided he had paid enough rent, and 20K in debt.
Damn, his grievances are real and relatable. He's clearly fed up with the system, as we all are, and sadly that led him to buy into lies people told him, based on the thin hope that he might have some modicum of power over his situation.
I get it, this system is absolutely oppressive. It's hard to accept being on the low end of such a massive power imbalance. It doesn't excuse the sov cit movement, but I definitely feel the pain this guy is going through.
I wish I could turn all of my problems into a small bag.
A small bag is great for carrying dice for DnD. SovCits should start recruiting whatever fantasy tabletop role-playing gamers.
I used to turn $40 into a small bag.
Holy crap, this lady figured out how to own a car dealership via her cool magic paperwork. I need some of that.
She obviously had to look up the script on her phone, thereby signalling she in fact does not truly know her stuff. That's a ticket to county jail right there, nobody is going to take you seriously if you cannot repeat the magic incantations by heart.
But on a serious note: The amount of patience that officer had with here was more than she deserved. She had every opportunity to just leave, but instead she choose to double down. Feels like there is an thin line between simply being misinformed and mental health issues.
Yes, you can really see it as she begins to lose her shit. She goes from confident and proud to just falling apart that her magic isn't working. It's pretty sad, and I mean that in a non-sarcastic way. Her worldview is shattered.
Her worldview is shattered.
Exact same feeling I had when watching that breakdown. I sincerely hope she learns from this and escapes the SovCit bubble.
Is a small bag the Sovereign version of a minecraft bundle (equally non real)
That's the only piece I can't figure here. What is "a small bag" in this context? I know it's some imaginary thing but usually I at least understand what they're doing.
A "bag" in slang terms is a lump-sum of money. I think he believes that since he already "tried" paying them, but was refused (as it was already with collections), that he is somehow going to be able to turn his debt into money.
Don't ask me to clarify anymore. I had to hit myself in the head really hard to make that much sense of it.
Thank you.
Be careful, though... the ability to think in the complex multi dimensional layers of delusion enough to untie this mental knot may make you susceptible to infection. Repeat these words, and the Emotional Response Detector will evaluate your level of risk:
- Homeopathy
- Anti-vaccination
- Libertarianism
- MAGA
- H.A.R.P.
- Infowars
- Lizard People
- Pizzagate
Ok, but lizard people ARE real.
You have a mild case of mnemonic infection. To remedy this, spend 1 nice, sunny day at a quiet river or lake.
Unfortunately it is pouring rain where I live. Thankfully, the wet weather has lessened the violent tendencies of the lizard people.
I should have seen that and you're absolutely right. Appreciate it!
How can I turn my debt into money, so that I can use that to pay another debt?
Is he trying to turn himself into a small bag?
Not a sovcit, but definitely unwilling to take responsibility, plus some evangelical vibes. Dude tries to poison his nephew, but it was just a "misunderstanding." He didn't do anything wrong!