this post was submitted on 01 Feb 2025
725 points (97.1% liked)

Comic Strips

13571 readers
2828 users here now

Comic Strips is a community for those who love comic stories.

The rules are simple:

Web of links

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
top 19 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] [email protected] 35 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Honestly with the way the internet exists now, we might feasibly be able to do something closer to direct democracy.

But good luck convincing the people in charge to lay down their power.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Perhaps, though I’d be very concerned for mob mentality. Social media is famously reactive.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago (2 children)

No doubt. I think an easy way to counter that is to put a “deliberation” time on legislation. I’m spitballing but maybe require two votes 3 months apart, and they must both agree (otherwise there’s a third tiebreaker vote another 3 months later)? That would help kill off the flash fire effect that a viral meme can create and focus more on fixing problems that occur over a longer period of time.

I mean I’m no political scientist so I’d love to hear more about what methods are proven for direct democracy.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Was it... the Persians? Maybe? Anyway, they had to make two choices on any decision, once when drunk and again sober a few days later. If rhe choice was the same both times it was deemed a good idea.

I have zero idea if this is fact, but it sounds similar to your idea.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Ooh never heard that but it kinda makes sense

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I really hope it's not some fever dream, or total bullshit, but it kind of makes sense. I'll see if I can find some facts on it.

Here is a link talking about it, so maybe it's plausible?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Making a second decision mandatory makes it harder to change existing laws. This can be a good thing in some cases, but not always. It increases conservatism (in that it's harder to change things).

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

No doubt. The goal is to make it harder for memes to affect the outcome of a decision.

Another way to approach it is if a supermajority votes for something, no secondary confirmation vote is required. Eg. reproductive choice would easily pass with one vote because it has such widespread support.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Yeah no....as much as our current system sucks, I'd rather have some sort of a buffer before full on mob rule.

People are dumb, panicky, dangerous animals...and you know it.

Full on direct democracy sounds like a good idea. Until you realize it's two wolves and a sheep making dinner plans.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I fail to see how that’s different than the way it currently works, except you get the tyranny of the far right minority instead of tyranny of the majority.

Or another way to look at it, with your analogy, instead of two wolves, you have one professional career wolf who is far more effective at his job.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

Nah it's more like the wolves lawyers and the sheep's lawyers fight it out. Like a proxy war.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I say liquid democracy would be better

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

Super earth has my vote for managed democracy! o7

[–] [email protected] 29 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Ew. I almost clicked a Reddit link. 🤮

Mostly /s. Kinda.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

My sincere apologies.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

Doing the lord's work. Thank you

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago

Ironically as libertarian (not capitalist) I guess I want BIGGEST government.