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What's great about this, and Stephen Fry is brilliant, is not that he's absolving Musk, or that he's criticizing Tesla, but that it is an argument likely leading to Elon Musk protesting,

'No, my cars are good enough that I can be a Nazi!'

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

If Elon isn't a full-blown Nazi, he's at minimum a Nazi sympathizer. His actions at the inauguration proved where his allegiances lie.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

I'd imagine Jeremy Clarkson might have said this on old top gear before he outed himself as a massive asshole.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 hours ago

All Nazis are assholes Not all assholes are Nazis

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

What did he do to out himself, out of curiosity?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Nobody really remembers, it was so long ago.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

Then all's well, I guess. Just like Hitler. Who was he? ANYWAY let's get some froghurt...

[–] [email protected] 11 points 15 hours ago

Fry used to be on Mastodon, not sure if he's still there ?

[–] [email protected] 40 points 21 hours ago (4 children)

The cybertruck is exactly the sort of thing Nazis would come up with. It's the King Tiger of trucks - impressive specs and appeals to insecure men, but way the fuck too big and designed for unrealistic situations instead of practical reality.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 13 hours ago

I, as of recently, live in a place where I actually see those things driving around (and a lot of other trucks). They look like children's toys compared to the absolute monster fords and some other trucks (not to mention they really do age like milk from what I've seen). Some of these behemoths can't even fit in a single parking spot, it's kind of insane. One of those would be more deserving of this title I think (I don't know cars so I can't say any specific models I'm afraid)

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 hours ago

Before King Tiger and Tiger they had a few very good tanks.

Just when T-34 (which were clearly superior to German tanks once some bugs were ironed out, different class even) production went out of control, Hitler started making more decisions involved in what kind of machines is going to be developed and built.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

It can't realistically tow heavy loads cause the hitch breaks off, and it can't travel far with heavy loads. Definitely not the king tiger of trucks.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 19 hours ago (4 children)

Wasn't the king tiger notorious for breaking down constantly? Or was that a different German WW2 tank?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

Even up to present day conflict tanks breaking down or getting stuck can be a major loss of armor, especially during prolonged maneuvers.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 hours ago

That's every one of those big German tanks everybody talks about. The ones they started the war with were pretty fine (limited by terrain, though).

[–] [email protected] 6 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

Also dangerous for crews. Sherman tank crews had a 75% survival rating when their tank got bust. I think the tiger had an 80% death rate or something.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 17 hours ago

lol survival rate vs death rate.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 19 hours ago

Difficult to make, too heavy to be effective, and iirc yeah, unreliable.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

based we did it fascism is defeated

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 hours ago

Not every strike in the battle has to be the winning blow.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 hours ago

We did it! Great job everyone!

[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Not apologizing and then immediately giving a speech to AfD about not being ashamed of "cultural purity" beg to differ. Either way, him being an actual Nazi is irrelevant. There are 2 options:

  1. He is an actual Nazi and believes in the ideology, which makes him a fucking Nazi. It should be noted that his grandfather was an extremely anti-semitic politician who moved to South Africa because he admired Apartheid...

  2. He did it as a troll. In which case, at a POTUS inauguration he decided to behave like a teenage boy as the richest man in the world and make light of something that saw 6 million Jews slaughtered and remains as a threat to the security of Jews around the world to this day. Which makes him a colossal piece of shit.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 hours ago

there's no real difference between a true believer nazi and one doing it as a bit. or one going along with it for profits. they're all nazis.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 21 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

I wonder where she is now....

Awww. She's all grown up, and seemingly successful.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 20 hours ago

TBF, Elon's cars are great at killing groups of people with toxic gasses and then incineration their bodies. Just because he isn't efficient today, doesn't mean he isn't working on being a better Nazi tomorrow.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/fatal-crash-four-dead-lake-shore-cherry-1.7361751

[–] [email protected] 9 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

Elon is the new Henry Ford. But I'm afraid we have no modern day Roosevelts to smack him down.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

Henry Ford actually had some good ideas himself. Elon steals all his ideas.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 18 hours ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 hour ago

The company being named Tesla seems pretty Edison.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Nah, I'm sure Cybertruck was the example of him messing around in a 3d modeling software and then saying to Tesla engineers "make a car out of this". There's no other excuse for the lack of thought in its outer design.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 17 hours ago

I mean design aside, there is no reason to make it this shit, even if it looks bad. It's just a rug pull but with cars. There is no way in hell you see one of these driving around in 10 years, except some rare cases of garage queens. The car had a pre-order system for fucks sake. The selling point of the car is that: "in an apocalypse, you can just drive over other cars." Which says a lot about the clientele of that thing.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 17 hours ago

He's the new Henry Ford, but also, he's the new Henry Ford

[–] [email protected] 55 points 1 day ago (24 children)

Let's repeat it again kids. Elon Musk is a piece of shit

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[–] [email protected] 122 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Headlines are being headlines, I get it, but Fry was repeating a joke:

“I heard a very good joke yesterday,” the QI host, 67, told Stig Abell on Times Radio on Thursday.

“Someone said, ‘Musk is not a Nazi... Nazis made really good cars,’” he went on, before bursting out laughing.

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