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submitted 4 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

Their Study Solving Climate Change Requires Changing our Food Systems

I know this article is probably not surprising many people, but theres a few interesting parts, like,

The study explains how our growing demand for meat and animal products is unsustainable, with the United Nations Food and Agriculture Organisation (FAO) estimating that demand for meat will double by 2050.

“This demand will require approximately 80 percent of existing forests and shrubland to be converted into land devoted to raising animals. Such a trajectory would have devastating consequences for us and the planet,” Professor Knight said

And,

The study presented strategies to re-think current food systems, including the removal of government subsidies and higher taxation of animal products to account for externalised costs of animal agriculture.

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[-] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago

Corporations are not people. They have no diet but greed. Stop blaming the consumer, asshats.

[-] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago

Yeah, i mean its not Gina's fault sje has to fly around in a private jet , not Clives fault eithet

We already know who to "blame", anyone not voting Green.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

George Orwell knew what was up.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

Now we got the Temu version, George Oh-Well.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

Or maybe its a george costanza culture we're in now.

Relentlessly self obsessed, wild mood swings, surface level takes presented as deep insights... Thats George Costanza!

[-] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

Consumers also have to change. Giving up meat is easy

[-] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago
[-] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

To give some context

https://www.yesmagazine.org/issue/life-after-oil/2016/02/11/how-far-can-we-get-without-flying

Hour for hour, there’s no better way to warm the planet than to fly in a plane.

Everyone has to eat, no one has to fly.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago

You might need to eat food, but you don't need to eat meat.

In any case, it's not one versus the other, it's all of the above.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

For international travel, there's just never going to be a better option than flying. Ships are far, far too slow. And suggesting that people not be allowed to go on holiday and experience other parts of the world would be the most out-of-touch unrealistic claim someone could make.

For domestic travel, we absolutely should have high speed rail, starting with Brisbane to Melbourne, and ideally extending up to Cairns and across to Perth eventually. But unfortunately we don't have that right now, and it's unreasonable to ask people to drive or do intercity trips on the insanely expensive yet excruciatingly slow intercity trains we have today.

But, especially since the amount of carbon emitted by Taylor Swift alone absolutely dwarfs the transport-related-pollution caused by over a thousand average folk (never mind adding in all the other billionaires and celebrities), asking individual people to sacrifice their quality of life for this just isn't going to, pardon the pun, fly.

In the short-to-medium term, the vast majority of domestic business travel could probably just be done via Teams or Zoom. And longer term, most domestic travel should be HSR. But that still leaves quite a lot of flying. And there are other places where we can have a bigger impact.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

Without any bias whatsoever, i think the first Aussie fast trains should be on the West Coast. Probably just a shortish line from Augusta to Geraldton. ;)

[-] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

You joke, but that "shortish line" would actually be considerably longer than the current actual planned first stage, being Newcastle to Sydney.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

Totally agree, people, especially Australians, need to change our attitudes to our current flight systems, be it the high emissions technology, or an overall reduction in flight hours per person.

Years ago i listened to a course on energy. I might have to look up the details, but he said the absolute worst common use vehicle for emissions is jet ski's. I think he meant in regards weight to fuel expenditure ratio.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

Jet skis feel like a vehicle that would be ripe for electrification. The extra torque or whatever that helps them accelerate so fast in cars would surely be an advantage for the type of fun jet ski users like to have. And they're not usually going to be used for hundreds of kilometres that would benefit from the greater energy density that fossil fuels have anyway.

But I dunno, maybe I'm missing something.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

You got me interested. Had a read of a random article on them, here you hit the nail on the head with the idea about torque.

Seems the expense, charging time, and distance travelled on one charge combine to hold them back.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

Yeah looks like range might be worse than I was expecting. I thought you'd be able to get 3–6 hours or so, which would be sufficient for an afternoon of fun. But the first one on that page only gets 1 hour at 60 km/h. That's definitely a real limitation. Much more real than the limitations on EV cars are today.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

While reading your comment I immediately thought of this company that's using hydrofoils to overcome the energy requirements in their watercraft: https://candela.com/p-12-shuttle/ Also, recent video here of a trial usage of it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fqnbskTAjI Very cool.

I see that that article does actually mention hydrofoils (and seems to link to a video with one), but the specific product they mention is the Sea-Doo Rise which is a board, not a 'scooter' style vehicle (video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GthLd2i01uk). That one seems to be a dead product, though.

I did find some hydrofoiling electric jet skis, though:

[-] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

That hydrofoil ferry looks impressive. Kinda hope they go for something like this for the Perth ferry terminal expsnsion, but i don't even know if they're planning on buying new ferries.

I've never been jet skiing, so i don't know how people get theirvfun out of it. I'd imagine some of the fun is derived from the tight cornering and ocean spray which a hydrofoil jetski would reduce significantly.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Animal agriculture is the leading cause of climate change.

“This demand will require approximately 80 percent of existing forests and shrubland to be converted into land devoted to raising animals. Such a trajectory would have devastating consequences for us and the planet,” Professor Knight said

Solving climate change requires shading out the bullshit.

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