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Tesla Gigafactory Berlin (lemmy.world)

submitted 1 week ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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[–] [email protected] 213 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Geordi meme no: Tesla yes: Swasti-car

[–] [email protected] 75 points 1 week ago (4 children)

The Swasticar Wankpanzer is 100% something he would call the truck if his sycophant followers jokingly suggested it.

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[–] [email protected] 185 points 1 week ago (5 children)

wtf, is that real?

[–] [email protected] 350 points 1 week ago (26 children)

It's being projected as part of a protest by https://bsky.app/profile/politicalbeauty.bsky.social and https://bsky.app/profile/did:plc:37x2qvt3z5iwuyzusvnvlepi

[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 week ago

Thx

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 week ago (3 children)

The photo of Ellen and the “HEIL” appear to be projected onto the wall of the factory

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[–] [email protected] 173 points 1 week ago

That is an out-fucking-standing protest projection.

[–] [email protected] 167 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Introducing the new Model SS.

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[+] [email protected] 155 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

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[–] [email protected] 443 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Making the German state officially state that this is Nazi imagery would be a worthwhile win lol.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm pretty sure they have explicitly come out and said that the gesture was what we all know it to be. I'm sure the Internet can verify it for you though

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 week ago

Holy shit nice

[–] [email protected] 75 points 1 week ago (6 children)

There's plenty of "fair use" cases which would allow it.

§86a STGB allows for the use of "symbols of anti-constitutional organizations" in cases of:

art (e.g. the movie "Downfall")
scientific research
education
news or other broadcast (covering Nazi Protests in the US for example, German news station don't have to censor the Swastika flags or the like)

And probably applying in this case - in protesting said anti-constitutional organizations, for example a crossed out Swastika as a form of protest against Nazis is still very much legal.

Most important is the intent. If you plan to use those symbols with the intent of furthering the ideology of anti-constitutional organizations, it is probably forbidden. The intention has to be clearly against those organizations, otherwise it might be actionable.

Btw the communist party of Germany, the KPD is also considered an anti-constitutional organization and therefore it's symbols are forbidden in the same way.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

§86a STGB allows for the use of "symbols of anti-constitutional organizations" in cases of:

art (e.g. the movie "Downfall")

scientific research

education

news or other broadcast (covering Nazi Protests in the US for example, German news station don't have to censor the Swastika flags or the like)

Which is funny because the video game series Wolfenstein famously had to change all of their in-game imagery. The series is about killing Nazis, but it was banned in Germany until the game devs removed all of the swastikas. Because apparently showing the swastika is banned, even when it’s used explicitly to say “these are the bad guys.”

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (6 children)

Yeah, there were some real conservative views on what counts as art or education and what does not that influenced that decision I figure.

It's silly regardless on both sides in my personal view. Like yeah it's a little silly to not allow it, since the law would easily have allowed for it but also - it's a Swastika, I'm fine in a video game without it, I'm not gonna die on that specific hill for sure.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago

"Are we the baddies?"

"I dunno, our gear looks okay now?"

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[–] [email protected] 57 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It is with few exceptions. Given that it looks like the purpose is to call out a Nazi supporter I think they wouldn't get in trouble for that though.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 week ago (3 children)

It's not exactly uncommon for systems set up to oppose something to end up supporting them instead. See the ADL covering for Elon and condemning those opposed to genocide as antisemitic. In theory the ADL should be opposed to fascism, but because Israel has become fascist they found themselves on the same side as those who had been and would be their oppressors.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 week ago (9 children)

Freedom of art in that regard. The only illegal thing might be to project something to the factory

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[–] [email protected] 76 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Saw a video about this on Mastodon. It looks like they projected a whole video presentation that outlines a bunch of the Nazi shit Musk has done, not just the image of his salute.

https://mastodon.online/@streetartutopia/113877354369169766

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 week ago

Yep. Musk is a racist anti-Semite. Not surprised he's so well practiced on the nazi salute

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[–] [email protected] 56 points 1 week ago

Man baby needs to be held accountable for his actions.

[–] [email protected] 53 points 1 week ago (6 children)

This will be great for business. If I had Tesla, I would try to get rid of it.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 week ago

I’m working in Germany, and I see a lot of people complain about Musk and switching from Tesla, which was a very popular even a few years ago.

The people who can afford overpriced EVs are also the ones who can afford the “virtue signaling” to switch to another brand - especially as now there are a lot of great alternatives, many of them cheaper and better.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Haha, I saw someone already selling elon salute stickers to put on Teslas. I kind of feel bad for anyone who bought one used or a long time ago.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

Don’t feel bad. If you bought one in the last 8 years, you weren’t paying attention because he had already called the diver who rescued the soccer team trapped in a cave in Thailand a pedophile because they refused to use his horrible, horrible submarine idea. The man has always been megalomaniac.

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