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[–] 213 points 2 years ago (5 children)
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    That is an out-fucking-standing protest projection.

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  • [–] 167 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Introducing the new Model SS.

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  • [–] 444 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    Making the German state officially state that this is Nazi imagery would be a worthwhile win lol.

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  • [–] 76 points 2 years ago (15 children)

    There's plenty of "fair use" cases which would allow it.

    §86a STGB allows for the use of "symbols of anti-constitutional organizations" in cases of:

    • art (e.g. the movie "Downfall")
    • scientific research
    • education
    • news or other broadcast (covering Nazi Protests in the US for example, German news station don't have to censor the Swastika flags or the like)

    And probably applying in this case - in protesting said anti-constitutional organizations, for example a crossed out Swastika as a form of protest against Nazis is still very much legal.

    Most important is the intent. If you plan to use those symbols with the intent of furthering the ideology of anti-constitutional organizations, it is probably forbidden. The intention has to be clearly against those organizations, otherwise it might be actionable.

    Btw the communist party of Germany, the KPD is also considered an anti-constitutional organization and therefore it's symbols are forbidden in the same way.

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  • [–] 24 points 2 years ago* (9 children)

    §86a STGB allows for the use of "symbols of anti-constitutional organizations" in cases of:

    • art (e.g. the movie "Downfall")
    • scientific research
    • education
    • news or other broadcast (covering Nazi Protests in the US for example, German news station don't have to censor the Swastika flags or the like)

    Which is funny because the video game series Wolfenstein famously had to change all of their in-game imagery. The series is about killing Nazis, but it was banned in Germany until the game devs removed all of the swastikas. Because apparently showing the swastika is banned, even when it’s used explicitly to say “these are the bad guys.”

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  • [–] 21 points 2 years ago* (6 children)

    Yeah, there were some real conservative views on what counts as art or education and what does not that influenced that decision I figure.

    It's silly regardless on both sides in my personal view. Like yeah it's a little silly to not allow it, since the law would easily have allowed for it but also - it's a Swastika, I'm fine in a video game without it, I'm not gonna die on that specific hill for sure.

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  • [–] 57 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    It is with few exceptions. Given that it looks like the purpose is to call out a Nazi supporter I think they wouldn't get in trouble for that though.

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  • [–] 20 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    It's not exactly uncommon for systems set up to oppose something to end up supporting them instead. See the ADL covering for Elon and condemning those opposed to genocide as antisemitic. In theory the ADL should be opposed to fascism, but because Israel has become fascist they found themselves on the same side as those who had been and would be their oppressors.

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  • [–] 77 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    Saw a video about this on Mastodon. It looks like they projected a whole video presentation that outlines a bunch of the Nazi shit Musk has done, not just the image of his salute.

    https://mastodon.online/@streetartutopia/113877354369169766

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    [–] 56 points 2 years ago

    Man baby needs to be held accountable for his actions.

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  • [–] 53 points 2 years ago (12 children)

    This will be great for business. If I had Tesla, I would try to get rid of it.

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  • [–] 22 points 2 years ago

    I’m working in Germany, and I see a lot of people complain about Musk and switching from Tesla, which was a very popular even a few years ago.

    The people who can afford overpriced EVs are also the ones who can afford the “virtue signaling” to switch to another brand - especially as now there are a lot of great alternatives, many of them cheaper and better.

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  • [–] 17 points 2 years ago (6 children)

    Haha, I saw someone already selling elon salute stickers to put on Teslas. I kind of feel bad for anyone who bought one used or a long time ago.

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