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[–] [email protected] 65 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

What we feel is natural, there's no healthy way to be mentally stable in a dying world.

Nothing will meaningfully improve until the rich fear for their lives

[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

We have a culture that is strong enough to threaten the hyper-wealthy, so they're exhblibiting a totalitarian scarcity mindset phenomena known as "Elite Panic".

What we really need to do is construct a stronger culture that teaches them what needs to be done and why. Why it's important they're generous/humanist, why it's important to help us set up communities of life and reciprocation.

We need to capture them culturally, train them, and strongly habituate them to returning their money to the world in a hyper beneficial way.

...and we need to do this using culture and boycotts alone. Which are after all, the tools the community has.

Whilst doing this, small mutual aid communities should be formed to gain resources and alternative means. The leadership groups should be well armed and organised.

They will be targeted as "terrorists" - so will need to know their legal rights, and become activists.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

100 years ago we just killed them and redistributed their wealth, which is part of what fixed the Great Depression.

Same goes for almost 200 years ago where the rich tried to use their power to separate from the union, and again we killed a ton of them and redistributed their wealth as punishment.

This is a natrual cycle in the US at this point. Every centry the rich decide they want to own the country and make everyone slaves again, and it requires us killing them and redistributing their wealth to reset the cycle

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 weeks ago

100 years ago we just killed them and redistributed their wealth, which is part of what fixed the Great Depression.

Wha? I thought Congress passed estate taxes starting in 1916, the robber barons didn't live as long as today, so they died of old age and disease more-or-less like regular people.

I never heard of many of them being killed.

I'd be interested to hear more about patterns of killing.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago

You're really gonna have to source that. I've never heard of elites being killed and their wealth being redistributed during the great depression. There were plenty of suicides though. Basically everyone was affected back then. Including the rich. And many of them committed suicide after the stock market crash in 1929. Them being killed and their wealth redistributed really sounds like BS to me. We came out of the great depression through legislation. Not through violence.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Can this be used as a legal defense similar to gay panic?

Asking for a friend.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

Based on the response to Mario's brother who-shall-not-be-named I'm gonna go with: no.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

What's the advantage of being mentally unstable?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

Being present in reality

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

Worst thing is it's not the end of the world, it's a continuation of a decline.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

And here I'm just hoping for zombies. Not crazy enough to not happen and sorta feels in line with the current rate of decline.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

Honestly it might be for the best though it's time for a global Extinction event which brings the next thing of Life on board. It's clear humans aren't smart enough to handle it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It kinda is the end of the world though. Carbon dioxide in the atmosphere dissolves into the ocean, making it more acidic. When it reaches a certain point, marine life starts dying. Complex terrestrial life won't last long without it.

Not today, maybe not even this century. But, eventually.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

It does get stored once it's in the ocean, by things like underwater plants, plankton, and coral, and the scenario you've laid out is not going to happen within our lifetime. We've been increasing carbon emissions for 100 years or more and acidity has only decreased 0.1 ph (7 is neutral and it's gone from 8.11, to 8.05, so still basic)... Also some life forms don't have as much of a problem with slightly more acidity.

All in all it's slow enough that evolution will have some adaptive responses.

I think the heat will get us before the ocean gets too acidic. But I mean, it's all doomerism isn't it? Doomerism is a dime a dozen.

Eschatology is a popular trend. We just keep peeling that onion.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

At no point in the geological record has atmospheric carbon increased this quickly. We do not know if the systems can adapt quickly enough. Just because it's not going to happen in my lifetime does not mean it's not going to happen.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I never said it wasn't going to happen.

Also, I never said anything about carbon increase rates.

I said something about evolutionary adaptation, and we have seen that happen in much shorter time frames.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

What was that about thinking about a tree? 🤔

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Imagine getting a blowjob from this tree......think of the splinters......

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago

Hmmm, I don’t think I will.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Hmm, so this is what being radicalised online is like.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago

everyone I know online has become radicalised

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago

Me at the therapist the other day: I need to find friends that support each other like the Citizens' Commission to Investigate the FBI did.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago

Ah the therapist where it's more like you are paying to have a friend you can have meaningful conversations about life with while they mostly try to gaslight you to be happy. The majority of them.