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[–] 361 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (9 children)

In response to concerns that the new r/homeautomation mod team could overlook posts with dangerous misinformation, the anonymous Redditor pointed me to the subreddit's sidebar, which has a disclaimer about the dangers of electricity. However, the disclaimer is only visible on old Reddit. The mod doesn't know why.

Oh Lord

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  • [–] 90 points 3 years ago (5 children)

    Thank God I wasn't the only one who went WTF. That's like one of the simplest things I learned as a mod in my first 2 days. You gotta update the sidebar twice for both versions of it. It's been over a month since they probably took over and they still don't know this.

    I love this article but it also makes me sad like with the old r/canning mods pointing out the unsafe material the new mods left up.

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    [–] 198 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    Dromio05 showed me several posts he deemed questionable since Reddit took away his own mod badge. For example, this post shares a link to an article about "rebel canners," which Dromio05 argues "gives a public platform to people who openly encourage methods and recipes that are known to be unsafe, like canning milk and open kettle canning." The post is labeled unsafe, but Dromio05 would have removed the link to the article.

    Another cited example is this recipe for canned sauce. It includes already-canned tomatoes, which experts like the National Center for Home Food Preservation (NCHFP) recommend against, as there's no safe tested process for this. The recipe also includes nuts, though the USDA doesn't have any recommendations for canning nuts, and NCHFP and other experts advise against canning any nuts besides green peanuts.

    No comment. Moderators are the key to Reddit's success, and they have been treated like shit and will continue to be treated like shit.

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  • [–] 98 points 3 years ago* (1 child)

    Jesus. I can from time to time, I used to be a regular on /r/canning. The attention to detail re food safety was one of the best things about the sub, as you really can kill yourself and others if you piss about.

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  • [–] 151 points 3 years ago* (19 children)

    Wow! Who knew when you kick your volunteer mods who curate content for you for free to the curb that overall quality would decrease?

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    [–] 149 points 3 years ago (9 children)

    the anonymous Redditor pointed me to the subreddit's sidebar, which has a disclaimer about the dangers of electricity. However, the disclaimer is only visible on old Reddit. The mod doesn't know why.

    Wow this is the part that made me laugh the most. One of the first things I learned when as a mod was that you had to change the side bar in both old.reddit and the newer version since they both have different sidebars.

    I never even realized that the loss of whole mod teams could make this simple feature unknown by the new team.

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  • [–] 65 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (3 children)

    There are a huge amount of redditors these days who have no idea old reddit ever existed and the first time they heard of 3rd party apps was when Reddit announced they were pricing them out of existence. Naturally, a lot of those people are going to become mods now and their ignorance about fundamental aspects of the site is glaring.

    This is only tangentially related but I started using reddit 13 years ago and the userbase has become increasingly unrecognizable in recent years. But what makes me truly feel like a dinosaur is seeing six month old accounts refer to reddit as "an app"... It's bizarre to me that so many people's exposure to reddit is limited to the worst way to possibly use the platform (the official app).

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    [–] 140 points 3 years ago (8 children)

    I also have the feeling that the comments started to suck a lot more. It's starting to feel like comments on Youtube or Instagram, not like real people having a somewhat reasonable discussion about the topic.

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    [–] 121 points 3 years ago (3 children)
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    [–] 103 points 3 years ago (4 children)

    I can't put my finger on it, but I think there's been an uptick also in posts purely in the form of increasing engagement. Safe 'bets' on getting responses (i.e. ++ to AskReddit), remarkably bland headlines, and just shit that reminds me of controversy of the "jumpstart" of automated bots they used in the earlier days.

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    [–] 93 points 3 years ago (10 children)

    Mods weren't ever supposed to anybody but janitors. That isn't in a derogatory tone. The anonymous userbase was the original value proposition of reddit. The expertise came from random nobodies. Usernames didn't matter on reddit because nobody looked at it. It seems this is long forgotten history from a time when the internet was primarily IT nerds.

    By the time mods were becoming somebodies, reddit was past its prime. Once the power structures started forming it was over. As we're seeing now reddit is hinges on single point of failure. The expertise among the userbase has gradually left the platform long before this API stuff. A long slow process years in the making.

    Internet janitors are a dirty but necessary job not unlike the real world. Somebody has to scrub toilets and pick produce. People are a-holes on the internet who need to be put in their place. Reddit has long since become too hoity-toity for that. Now mods are supposed to be experts in their field. Too high to be digital toilet scrubbers. Too scared of "muh free speech" to janitor the Greater Fuckwads anymore. So reddit is an asylum run by the inmates. Expertise can't be assed to contribute to a dumpster.

    On another note. The imgur purge has also contributed to the barren wasteland of reddit content history. So many dead posts.

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  • [–] 93 points 3 years ago (9 children)

    But you can't be a 'janitor' on a sub like r/canning without understanding canning. You can't know who is posting unsafe information unless you know what is unsafe. That's the problem.

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  • [–] 36 points 3 years ago (3 children)

    Thank you for using canning as an example. This is a excellent choice because it is a situation where people think they know what they're doing and they are just basically posting recipes for botulism. On Facebook there are the rebel canner groups and in those groups you're not even allowed to mention the word of botulism or the mods will ban you. Because even warning somebody that something is unsafe goes against those communities standards. Canning is a prime example of where the admins have to have actual knowledge to pull off the job.

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  • [–] 40 points 3 years ago

    It is more that Reddit wanted its moderators to not be anyone important, especially under the current CEO. Ditching the default subs, firing Victoria, heavily maiming r/all, and other actions were geared to prevent mods from gaining power over Reddit. On the flipside, Reddit maintained the mod ranking based on when a mod joined specifically to keep communities from forming more legitimate methods of mod selection.

    Mods were supposed to be weak while being scapegoats for Reddit in case something went wrong.

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    [–] 91 points 3 years ago (13 children)

    Every couple of weeks I come back and check lemmy to see if the top post isn't about reddit. Not yet.

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  • [–] 123 points 3 years ago (5 children)

    I'm fine with this - many of us were on Reddit for over a decade and had to cut cold turkey when they killed the site. We're here hoping Lemmy will replace it, so feels natural to speak of the old "shell" site.

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    [–] 84 points 3 years ago (18 children)

    To be fair, the content quality on Lemmy has been about the same from what I've seen.

    Bots all over the place, low-effort quips instead of discussions bubbling up, lots and LOTS of low-quality armchairing, personal attacks and flaming instead of actual discussion....etc

    It was good for a month or so during the reddit 3rd party app purge, but quickly went downhill.

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    [–] 73 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (13 children)

    Probably the best written article I’ve read on this subject. All concerning things in the article that Reddit absolutely doesn’t care about. Canning milk? What the fuck.

    Edit: I forgot that condensed milk is a thing…wondering if people can make it at home?

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    [–] 70 points 3 years ago

    Insert pikachu face

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  • [–] 68 points 3 years ago (6 children)

    I think I've seen this effect. Felt a bit smug when I saw a post of r/linux talking about how the quality of the posts was so poor after the "reddit migration".

    I've noticed it too that the quality of posts in certain subreddits I cared about just felt a lot more 'empty'. Which is both good and bad. Good cause Reddit got what they deserved and people stuck to their morals by dispersing to more federated communities across the web; but I also feel a tad sad that the subreddit championing a vision I want to see that took a long time to get there is now gonna leave a way pooer impression on anyone looking to join.

    But eh, I'm not sure many if any people's mind on trying out Linux were decided due to a reddit post before. ( Feel free to tell me otherwise if I am wrong on feeling. )

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    [–] 61 points 3 years ago (18 children)

    The purpose of reddit is to keep people engaged while seeing ads. That's it.

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    [–] 57 points 3 years ago (3 children)

    I've noticed a huge increase of ragebait AITA posts every time I check the front page. They're all pretty similar - disowning a child or deciding not to attend a wedding. And people fall for it every time. It's kind of sad to see one of the smartest places on the internet turn into social media junk food.

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    [–] 56 points 3 years ago (7 children)
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    [–] 52 points 3 years ago (11 children)

    Is that why 90% of everything is the same unfunny reposts from 80 years ago now?

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    [–] 49 points 3 years ago (7 children)

    WELL I FOR ONE AM SHOCKED!

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    [–] 45 points 3 years ago* (3 children)

    Accounts I don't regret deleting:

    Facebook

    Twitter

    Reddit

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    [–] 42 points 3 years ago (6 children)

    I know we all are in rage about reddit’s fuckery, but this says nothing about the state of the website.

    we already knew reddit was not the objective truth or wikipedia, but mostly an echo chamber. incrementing the check on the information objectivity will NOT hamper reddit’s growth. we’ve already seen other social media thrive without the weight of fact-checking or their intended purpose (facebook, instagram, I’d dare to say the new twitter as well).

    I as all of you would love to see reddit bomb so badly that they’ll all end unemployed and spez under a bridge sleeping with cardboard sheets, but that’s not going to happen soon.

    we should stop looking at how badly is reddit doing, and start watching at how to make Lemmy a better reddit instead.

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    [–] 36 points 3 years ago

    Turns out purges make everything shittier

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