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edit: As I'm seeing a lot of worry about the impact this will/could have on the community, please be assured we have the same mod team, and will be holding the community to the same standards. the same things that were always allowed will continue to be allowed and the same things that got things removed before will continue to get things removed before. Lemmy.world admins have agreed to allow us to run our community on our terms.
It is my pleasure to announce that effective immediately, we are transferring our community to Lemmy.world! This has been a few months in the making, so my entire mod team is already on board.
FAQ:
Why?
That's a complicated question with a long answer! The primary difference is moderatorial and ideologial differences between my team and Ada's excellent team of admins. We are on good terms with Ada and her team, and have gotten her consent to do this. In addition to this, we have had ongoing issues with federation and moderation that has caused a subpar experience for many people on other instances.
How does this work?
Currently, as there is not an easy way to transfer an entire community (trust me, we checked), we are locking the community as mod-only, and moving our focus to the 196 on lemmy.world. For you guys, functionally nothing has changed.
What about the posts?
Well, we tried to transfer them, but there was no real way to do so without absolutely destroying lemmy.world's federation. For this reason, we are simply archiving this community as mod-only. Everything is staying up, you just won't be able to post new content. Comments are still enabled, so we will continue to check our modlogs for some time after the transfer has settled.
As for the posts on lemmy.world's 196, we're leaving those up too. From this point onwards, all posts made to that community are beholden to the rules you are all used to, but anything pre-existing is getting grandfathered in.

IF YOU GUYS HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, PLEASE PUT THEM IN THE COMMENTS OF THIS POST, AND I'LL DO MY BEST TO ANSWER THEM.
Once again, here's the link to our new apartment of awesome. (universal: [email protected])

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[–] [email protected] 73 points 2 days ago

I would like to propose a solution that I think can make everyone happy. Transfer ownership of Blahaj 196 to a new mod team and make World 196 the alternate community. If anyone wishes to follow the original mod team into world they would be able to, meanwhile blahaj 196 would follow the values of Blahaj. I personally volunteer to either be the head or a moderator here.

[–] [email protected] 96 points 2 days ago (2 children)

We won't be moving to world with you. We like blahaj and we like 196 being on blahaj. If you don't want to be here, you should instead just hand over your mod positions to people who do.

[–] [email protected] 61 points 2 days ago

Absolutely foul decision. From the recent discussions i think it was very clear that the actual regular users and posters of 196 were opposed to moving to .world. What a clown show of a mod team.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 2 days ago

Yeah, exactly, what the fuck?

[–] [email protected] 76 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I've seen a lot of talk about how this move changes the admins the community will be under, but very little about how this will change the randos that pass through. The mods keep saying this won't change anything, that the moderation will stay the same, etc, but the reason this community is the way it is is that there are a lot of locals that find it. When the new community shows up on l.w's local page, it will bring in a far different crowd. Their posts, comments, and up/down votes will change the community, and there's no amount of moderation that will fix that.

Mods, this is why people are mad you made this change without asking anyone. Many of us do not want an influx of .world users into this space because we know what kind of politics and biases they'll bring with them and that, even if you moderate the bigots, the normies will still likely overpower the queer voices this community is known for.

[–] [email protected] 61 points 2 days ago

Well written.

The situation that you describe reminds me of this this comic:

[–] [email protected] 65 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

So I made a new community.

[email protected]

Banner and icon will follow, I'm literally out running errands right now!

[–] [email protected] 34 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Okay to have a backup, but I'm still hopeful we'll get this one unlocked

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[–] [email protected] 61 points 2 days ago

@[email protected] did you consult even a single member of your community or did you just decide this was good for you, like on a personal level?

thanks for linking the new one it makes it easy to block.

very disappointed. :(

[–] [email protected] 52 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

BOOOO!

Let us keep our own community right here on Blåhaj!

[–] [email protected] 66 points 2 days ago (12 children)

I'm sorry but what the fuck are you on?

lemmy.world

Literally the worst instance for a decentralized platform (cuz they're already too big).

please be assured we have same mod team

No that doesn't assure me. Whichever mods signed off on this should be removed from any 196 community because you took rule too seriously and forgot about your community before posting

It's really obvious what this is about. And it's not a good look for you.

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[–] [email protected] 53 points 2 days ago (2 children)

oh boy i can't wait to be randomly shadowbanned just like on every lemmy.world community where i open my stupid tranny mouth too much.

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[–] [email protected] 49 points 2 days ago

Adding my voice to the pile. Leave it here. Unlock it and let new mods take over. You can do your thing wherever you want. But let us do our thing where we want.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 2 days ago

Keep this community open for everyone and find a new mod team. With the world admin team "busting echo chambers" (even thoughs that aren't echo chambers) by overarching mod undercutting admin action, I'm extremely worried that this alone will ruin 196 as a whole. The etiquette on world is also different which will result in the altering of the community into some unknown. The quality content may also suffer a degradation as the culture of blajha and world are not the same.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Fuck this. I'll be blocking the ~~new~~ fake 196 then.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Every single post on the "new" community is from a .world user. Maybe its time for me to block all of .world, it was pretty clear from the start that .world is predatory but this just makes me even more sure. They can have fun over there with their meta/threads federation lol

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[–] [email protected] 69 points 3 days ago (7 children)

I guess those ideological issues were the acceptance and safe space for queer people, but fuck us I guess. Don't worry, we won't hop on over to the shit show.

Maybe we can start a 197 like how 196 came from 195.

What a shitty fucking take from some power tripped mods.

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 2 days ago
[–] [email protected] 38 points 2 days ago

the ideology of blahajzone isn't one I 100% agree with but it's honestly imo the best suited for 196, given that on The Other Website 196 is a fork of 195 that grew to be specifically queer/trans focused. People had other choices like 197, but they specifically chose 196, and I think there's a point to make in that.

as for the Lemmy.World choice, I really don't get it and probably will not migrate there, and really don't like that you guys are feeding the centralisation and concentration of power when there are so many wonderful instances out there. I like shitjustworks myself because it feels very non-interfery and open, but there's so many other options too.

this whole thing honestly feels disheartening given how 'default' the choice of lemmy.world feels, like you all put no thought into the decision before making it.

please just remember that we understand that you all are human and will accept apologies if you think they are necessary

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[–] [email protected] 67 points 3 days ago

I have no idea why u thought people would be fine with any of this, this leaves 200% clear that u dont even know the community u moderate

[–] [email protected] 80 points 3 days ago (18 children)

u guys should mod a community on lemmy.world if they share ur values more but don't steal our community

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 2 days ago (2 children)

if i could downvote, i would! >>>>>>:((((((((

this is a VERY UNCOMFY move!!! >>>>:((((

just to make it obvious, these are ANGRY FACES!!! ~~(im saying this cuz maybe 196 mods or whatever cannot understand these kinds of emotions)~~

">" are the ANGRY EYEBROWS! ":" are the EYES and "(" is the SAD MOUTH!!!

I AM VERY SAD! i will NOT lurk on ur evil .world "replacement".

this is NOT what the FEDIVERSE IS MEANT TO BE!!!!

the fediverse is meant to be DECENTRALIZED!!! across MULTIPLE INSTANCES!

this is NOT a "very fediverse move" you are doing here. This is a "reddit move"!

im gonna say it. this is straight up u/spez stuff happening here.

i HOPE that my comment gets blocked or removed by my instance maintainers, so that it becomes OBVIOUS that such hatespeech, which is allowed on .world is NOT OKAY!

(yes i mean my hatespeech rn, im in evil mode today, this is very evil, i dun like this at all. will not support this evil behavior)

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[–] [email protected] 53 points 2 days ago

Fuck off, dividing a marginalized community over petty shit.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Why Lemmy.world over other servers?

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[–] [email protected] 125 points 3 days ago (1 children)

We joined this community because its on blahaj.zone.

We're not moving

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[–] [email protected] 73 points 3 days ago

The combination of not involving the community in the decision, only providing a vague reason and locking the original community really rubs me the wrong way.

[–] [email protected] 145 points 3 days ago
[–] [email protected] 53 points 3 days ago

Great, more centralization to .world...

[–] [email protected] 77 points 3 days ago

It’s pretty clear what the community consensus here is.

You can leave, and start a new 196 community wherever you like. Leave this one as is, and people can choose to follow one, both or neither.

Locking it here is very hostile to the community and a categorically bad move. I hope the instance admins can step in, remove the mods and unlock the community.

[–] [email protected] 50 points 3 days ago

seriously? that's a bad decision.

[–] [email protected] 73 points 3 days ago

This move is going to make the community a lot less welcoming to queer folk, by virtue of being on .world alone. I don't know what rift between Ada and you let to that decision, but I think it's a big mistake. It feels especially bad for us members of this community not being involved in the decision making process at all, all the more if this has truly been "months in the making".

With that said: I strongly implore you to not lock down the community, and instead let a new mod team take over. Not having centralized decisions and power tripping mods is one of the big hopes I had for the fediverse, and this... feels really bad. It's not a bad thing to have several similar communities on different instances! Please don't destroy this one over personal grievances

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