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If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cut’n’paste it into its own post — there’s no quota for posting and the bar really isn’t that high.

The post Xitter web has spawned soo many “esoteric” right wing freaks, but there’s no appropriate sneer-space for them. I’m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged “culture critics” who write about everything but understand nothing. I’m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. They’re inescapable at this point, yet I don’t see them mocked (as much as they should be)

Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldn’t be surgeons because they didn’t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I can’t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

(Semi-obligatory thanks to @dgerard for starting this.)

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Did my regular check in of a q-pilled family member’s facebook page. Zuckerberg’s new fash turn is not being received well as he is being read as the worm that he is. i.e. they are still mad about the anti-vax fact checking.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I am sorry you have this family member.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago

It's ok, it's not your fault!

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago (6 children)
[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago

If you can't get through two short paragraphs without equating Stalinism and "social justice", you may be a cockwomble.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago

Man wrote nearly 5k words of pure unfiltered cap:

I'm not sure how someone can read all this without capping themselves. We could sneer this all fucking day.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The opening statement is also quite silly already (and makes me belief in a companion to the dead internet theory, the dementia internet theory, as I was sure we have had conversations like this as 'the internet' already, Zuck turning manospherian all of a sudden also makes me thing this (same with the fight over H-1B on the US right, they had that in 2018 already, Trump likes H-1B)).

We had the whole 'they act like they are morally superior' discussion already a lot, and that was about vegans. Only one problem, they are morally superior on almost all ethical/moral/ideological systems you can think of. Sure hedonists, stoics (who are not allowed to complain), sadists, accelerationist extinctionists, ironic nihilistic status quo pushing postmodernists, all disagree they are superior morally but who cares about the opinion of those people. Sure some of them might be annoying to people, but annoying people can be morally superior.

His statements about how politically correctness comes from the 80's is also wrong (it predates that, and has quite a complex history of being used by various different groups for different meanings), but at that moment I knew I was going to be wasting my time reading this as I would disagree with every paragraph. (as I have seen these types of articles before, they were popular a decade ago or so).

E2: Whoops that edit should have been on a different post. E3: bonus content: Two articles sneering at Paul, Paul Graham and the Cult of the Founder and Paul Graham, proto-techbro..

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm not reading that shit but for the masochists out there who like to read HN licking VC boots, here ya go

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42682305

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago

I've been a big fan of HN comments lately

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

As many writers (perhaps most eloquently George Orwell) have observed, women seem more attracted than men to the idea of being moral enforcers.

Ah, thanks Paul for validating my disdain for Orwell at least.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

George was writing his stories in the 40s, so at least has "product of his time" as an excuse.

Paul's just a flat out piece of shit to be writing this nearly 100 years later.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Fair, though in Orwell's case the misogyny is not accidental either, but an essential aspect of the mostly conservative ideology he adopted for 1984 (contempt for the working class, linguistic purism, just really being a little too enamoured with his perfect crystal of unending oppression etc).

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (8 children)

I've never heard of anyone describing 1984 that way, could you elaborate on your points or link to some analysis?

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Considering popes, priests in general, politicians etc are usually male (historically) i have a feeling these quotes also exclude some groups from being moral enforcers.

It also neatly ignores social pressures, which provides good reasons for women being into certain types of 'moral enforcement'. Either because 'it is their duty to protect the kids' or the revolutionary idea that people are all people and should have equal rites, bodily autonomy, a political voice etc.

But nope: "me and the boys agree, this wokeness stuff is for girls".

This all makes me wonder, we know he has proofreaders who help him. Did he either get rid of all the people who disagree with him, or did they give up, as some people dont want understand the other side they just want to argue their forever cause they believe they are correct (so disagreement is a massive waste of time).

E:

Thanks to Sam Altman, Ben Miller, Daniel Gackle, Robin Hanson, Jessica Livingston, Greg Lukianoff, Harj Taggar, Garry Tan, and Tim Urban for reading drafts of this. [emph mine, the names that really jumped out to me]

Ah. Also 1 name which jumps out to me as prob a woman. Let me google her. Ah right. His wife, and co-founder.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Welp, time to start the thread with fresh Awful for everyone to regret:

r/phenotypes

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago

Thanks, I hate it.

Many of these threads are made in good faith and out of curiousity, but often times the comments become filled with hatred, ignorance, and trolling.

You don't say.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago

Really? Right in the front of the clean new thread?

image descriptionExtremely simplistic drawing of a somewhat sad looking person. Drawn by the artist 'flork of crows'[sic]. Reference to the 'Really? Right In Front Of My X?' meme

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Looks like LW/Lightcone managed to convince enough people to give then $2M, which will totally not be used to settle sexual assault lawsuits in the future.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago (2 children)

It will instead be used to purchase another castle in which to perform SA

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Crying in LW

It was a stately home goddammit! Stop weakmanning meeeeeeeeee

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

But how are we supposed to grift our absurd ideology into respectability without having a stately English manor to entertain people in??

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago

Like every other 'charity', rent a room at some super expensive hotel, hire the most expensive cooks and give all your potential donors a free invite, and massive gifts.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago

Don't confuse the Conference Castle with the (Non)Consent Castle!

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago

With risk of falling into the 'classify people into two binary groups' thing which I have often criticized the Rationalist for. Move over jock vs nerd. There is Jock vs Creep.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago (8 children)

MDN has fucking ads now????

(also, image uploads are back, weird how pict-rs sometimes just shits the bed)

image descriptiona fucking “ads by Mozilla” banner at the top of mdn web docs advertising mongodb’s LLM of all fucking things

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

After this post I went back and read all the fallout from when they added and subsequently "paused" AI Explain and it was as entertaining as I remember (1, 2, 3, 4, 5).

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

xD oh what a delight, the one thing missing from the complete gobshite of a "database" that Mongo is was an AI to mangle your queries

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

that tracks

it's one of their best places to start boiling the frog

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago (2 children)

mdn’s only job is to be better than w3schools but here comes Mozilla removing the value from another one of their own projects

also not pictured: there was a fucking side banner ad I didn’t feel like screenshotting too, of course

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago

nasb, it warms my cold diamond heart to continue seeing instances of people going "oh, yeah, uh.... actually, no, fuck that shit. we'll do it ourselves" in response to broadcom's attempt to Raise Revenue Through Product Capture

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago

Free SFnal short story idea, came to me literally in a dream:

Dude is living his best life, beatiful house, beatiful wife, gets a job doing computer stuff "improving the world". But his big fancy work computer is wasting a lot of space so he reformats it/installs Nix, and suddenly everythings gone, all grey wireframe, no way out. Turns out he was given root to his own simulation and there's no backup.

Feels I should have read this somehwere but haven't read short SF in ages so...

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