I don't know why people bother with lemmy.ml at all - just add it to your user instance block list and move on.
this post was submitted on 09 Jan 2025
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Ye Power Trippin' Bastards
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This is a community in the spirit of "Am I The Asshole" where people can post their own bans from lemmy or reddit or whatever and get some feedback from others whether the ban was justified or not.
Sometimes one just wants to be able to challenge the arguments some mod made and this could be the place for that.
Posting Guidelines
All posts should follow this basic structure:
- Which mods/admins were being Power Tripping Bastards?
- What sanction did they impose (e.g. community ban, instance ban, removed comment)?
- Provide a screenshot of the relevant modlog entry (don’t de-obfuscate mod names).
- Provide a screenshot and explanation of the cause of the sanction (e.g. the post/comment that was removed, or got you banned).
- Explain why you think its unfair and how you would like the situation to be remedied.
Rules
- Post only about bans or other sanctions that you have received from a mod or admin.
- Don’t use private communications to prove your point. We can’t verify them and they can be faked easily.
- Don’t deobfuscate mod names from the modlog with admin powers.
- Don’t harass mods or brigade comms. Don’t word your posts in a way that would trigger such harassment and brigades.
- Do not downvote posts if you think they deserved it. Use the comment votes (see below) for that.
- You can post about power trippin’ in any social media, not just lemmy. Feel free to post about reddit or a forum etc.
- If you are the accused PTB, while you are welcome to respond, please do so within the relevant post.
Expect to receive feedback about your posts, they might even be negative.
Make sure you follow this instance's code of conduct. In other words we won't allow bellyaching about being sanctioned for hate speech or bigotry.
YTPB matrix channel: For real-time discussions about bastards or to appeal mod actions in YPTB itself.
Some acronyms you might see.
- PTB - Power-Tripping Bastard: The commenter agrees with you this was a PTB mod.
- YDI - You Deserved It: The commenter thinks you deserved that mod action.
- BPR - Bait-Provoked Reaction: That mod probably overreacted in charged situation, or due to being baited.
- CLM - Clueless mod: The mod probably just doesn't understand how their software works.
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Found your problem. Especially when Yogthos is a mod, and I presume the one that banned you. Any suggestion that the West isn't absolutely the worst possible everything at all times merits at least downvoted and at most a ban.
Lmao so he is well known? He banned me a few days ago, I'm pretty sure I called him a 'ruski simp' but it sounds like he can't handle differing opinions.
How do you pull up the post that gets you banned?
What's rule 1 and 2 there?
Fwiw, they are slaves, the Constitution refers to them as such, and they can't truly consent to the labor when the alternative is to rot in prison conditions so deplorable they've been decried as inhumane by the UN and other international organizations.
That said, I do think that you were polite and civil in your post.
- No bigotry - including racism, sexism, ableism, homophobia, transphobia, or xenophobia.
- Be respectful, especially when disagreeing. Everyone should feel welcome here.
Everyone should feel welcome here.
Pffft right. Vatnik please.
PTB
Its a .ml community. They do not like nuances.
They love to powertrip, and the 2 month ban is just ridiculous for a simple disagreement. I don't see anything in the comment that is in any way bigoted or uncivil.
I personally have blocked all news and politics communities from .ml
Btw, even if they are not technically "slaves", they are de facto slaves, because they only done so under coercion.
Prisoners can be forced to work in the US, to my knowledge.
Penal labor is permitted under the 13th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution, which prohibits slavery except as a punishment for a crime where the individual has been convicted.[1] The courts have held that detainees awaiting trial cannot be forced to work.[14] However, convicted criminals who are medically able to work are typically required to do so in roles such as food service, warehouse work, plumbing, painting, or as inmate orderlies.[15]According to the Federal Bureau of Prisons, inmates earn between 12-40 cents per hour for these jobs, which is below the federal minimum wage of $7.25 per hour.[15] There have been proposals of ideas to help incarcerated workers obtain better wages and improved working conditions through unionizing prison labor.
The user is clearly wrong, but they're wrong in a way that's incredible common among Americans. It's not their fault, exactly, they've been taught to think that slavery is okay from birth. That all said, I don't think their post actually violates the rules and they're clearly open to discussion on the issue.
My guy, it simply isn't slavery. These inmates are entirely free to just not do this type of work.
Yes, there is actual slavery in US prisons. There is mandatory labor. It's fucked up.
That said, unless I've missed something critical, this is not one of those situations. They had to choose to apply to the firefighting position.
They're punished if they refuse. It's not a true volunteer system.
you had me until "they've been taught to think it's okay from birth."
what a weird, broad generalization.
But in this case they are volunteers. They specifically applied to the firefighting program.
There's certainly cause for discussion about the ethics, etc. but calling it slavery or involuntary servitude is hyperbole.
I agree that ML is being disingenuous when they claim they’re being forced to fight fires but it is true that prisoners are forced to work which is slavery, imo. I’m glad they’re not forced into dangerous work, at a minimum.