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[–] 2 points 2 years ago (1 child)

lemmy.ml

Found your problem. Especially when Yogthos is a mod, and I presume the one that banned you. Any suggestion that the West isn't absolutely the worst possible everything at all times merits at least downvoted and at most a ban.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago

    I don't know why people bother with lemmy.ml at all - just add it to your user instance block list and move on.

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    [–] 1 point 2 years ago* (6 children)

    Prisoners can be forced to work in the US, to my knowledge.

    Penal labor is permitted under the 13th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution, which prohibits slavery except as a punishment for a crime where the individual has been convicted.[1] The courts have held that detainees awaiting trial cannot be forced to work.[14] However, convicted criminals who are medically able to work are typically required to do so in roles such as food service, warehouse work, plumbing, painting, or as inmate orderlies.[15]According to the Federal Bureau of Prisons, inmates earn between 12-40 cents per hour for these jobs, which is below the federal minimum wage of $7.25 per hour.[15] There have been proposals of ideas to help incarcerated workers obtain better wages and improved working conditions through unionizing prison labor.

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  • [–] -1 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    My guy, it simply isn't slavery. These inmates are entirely free to just not do this type of work.

    Yes, there is actual slavery in US prisons. There is mandatory labor. It's fucked up.

    That said, unless I've missed something critical, this is not one of those situations. They had to choose to apply to the firefighting position.

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  • [–] [S] -1 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    But in this case they are volunteers. They specifically applied to the firefighting program.

    There's certainly cause for discussion about the ethics, etc. but calling it slavery or involuntary servitude is hyperbole.

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  • [–] -1 points 2 years ago

    I agree that ML is being disingenuous when they claim they’re being forced to fight fires but it is true that prisoners are forced to work which is slavery, imo. I’m glad they’re not forced into dangerous work, at a minimum.

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