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[–] [email protected] 217 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Weird how we have to pay more money every single year, and insurance somehow provides us less and less for our greater and greater spend

[–] [email protected] 101 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Or, with car insurance, you get punished for actually using the service you pay for.

[–] [email protected] 61 points 2 days ago (1 children)

A service you are legally required to pay for, no less.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Isn't the required car insurance the part that covers the OTHER cars, property and people you might harm with your car?

I don't think it's required that you carry enough insurance to be able to replace your own car. Might depend on your state, though?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Usually if there is a lien against the title, you're required to carry full coverage, and liability only when you own the title.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Oh, but ~~if you're rich,~~ we have the best healthcare system in the world! ~~Rich~~ people from all over the globe come to America for medical care!

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[–] [email protected] 63 points 2 days ago (3 children)

This just feeds into my disillusionment with science and technology. What is the point of having developed these incredible things to then not go and use them. I just have to spell it out now. What. The. Fuck. You know I was born into a modern age but looks like im going to die in the dark ages.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 2 days ago (1 children)

In capitalism, EVERYTHING only exists for profit. If there isn't money to be drained, it's tossed to the landfill

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 days ago (7 children)

It’s not a Sci/Tech issue.

It’s a dystopian capitalism issue. When products that don’t have adequate profit margin and volume to make notable contributions to the bottom line, or worse yet, negativley affect the bottom line in a high per-unit cost, they are a liability. Profits direct research, too, unfortunately.

Humanity, quality of life, and all that medical shit is secondary or even further down the priority list for the corporations thinking about their profits first and the “service” last.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 days ago (4 children)

I’m not clear on the issue, in this case, with science and technology. Seems to me to be a problem with societies not caring for all their people.

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[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I wonder if someone cut off the CEO's limbs, would the medical necessity of prosthetic limbs would be questioned?

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 day ago (3 children)

You know, maybe we should force healthcare CEOs to be insured with the lowest tier of their own insurance.

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[–] [email protected] 112 points 2 days ago (5 children)

I have a friend who has a prosthetic. Sure they could live their life in a wheelchair. But this guy goes hiking, and acts like a fully capable walking person. The quality of life is huge. It really gives back their life.

[–] [email protected] 78 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Yep. It’s absolutely insane they wouldn’t cover it.

It’s honestly unethical as shit.

[–] [email protected] 78 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (5 children)

Unethical and counterproductive. Having a prosthetic limb would almost invariably lead to a less sedentary lifestyle, which is strongly correlated with better health. Paying for a prosthetic today has to be cheaper than paying for a heart attack or diabeties later.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 2 days ago

Yes, but who cares about later if there are quarterly and yearly profits to get.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 days ago

You're making the assumption that they'll pay out for a heart attack or diabetes later. You just said that they were caused by the pre-existing condition of not having a prosthetic limb.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Why are US citzens not founding a health care co-op? Are there even viable solutions left over there?

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 day ago

Between the regulatory capture and corporate/political bribery, it'll be tough to change anything from a grassroots perspective.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago

Lots but a couple of note:

Health insurance already has deals with pharmaceuticals and hospitals to charge a specific rate. The buy in on these deals is cost prohibitive to some degree. Think legal and administrative cost, especially when working between municipalities and States, let alone from hospital to hospital.

Health sharing ministries are a form of this. They have tied the concept to religious roots which is often limiting e.g. women's and queer healthcare. They also have horror stories in the same abubdance as the big corps.

There's nothing technically stopping a coop from forming short of startup capital and legal status. But those are insanely large hurdles.

[–] [email protected] 86 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Noooo heckin' killing CEOs is violent and bad

Then this fucking headline pops up.

They're basically crippling people, who could have at least some kind of limb use, by denying them limbs that THEY ALREADY PAID FOR AS PART OF INSURANCE PAYMENTS.

[–] [email protected] 56 points 2 days ago (3 children)

This is exactly the type of shit that radicalizes people into violent action.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It's almost like they're trying to force people to be violent. I don't get it.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Maybe you're being a little unreasonable. Have you stopped to think about what the money might want? Maybe your money wants to be with the CEO without partaking in some nasty exchange of goods or services.

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[–] [email protected] 51 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Man, I wish I could serve on that Luigi jury.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 days ago

So say we all.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It would be hilarious if this happened again and the guy was called Mario.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 days ago

"I mean technically any medical service is not truly medically necessary, right? You could just die*"

*Funeral services are not covered under your current plan.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 2 days ago

Wow. This means that now, someone can say that medical bills literally cost them an arm & a leg.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 days ago

Burn it all to the ground

[–] [email protected] 33 points 2 days ago

Someone needs to play super Mario bros again.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Lemmy Netizens Consider Offing Another Healthcare CEO, Questioning Their Industry Necessity - Fediverse News Network
^*not^ ^an^ ^actual^ ^news^ ^network.^ ^Yet.^

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Denied: Can't you just lie there like a broken Crash Test Dummy until you stop being a burden?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 days ago (3 children)

You do get the sense your continued existence is a problem for them.

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Tbh I was expecting the first comment to contain the name Luigi...

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That doesn't seem like a smart response to one of you getting assassinated.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago

You think a CEO has ever been beaten near death with a broken prosthetic limb? Just asking maybe that's a thing.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 days ago

Someone needs some adjusting.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

They're afraid of giving one-legged men the power to luck their asses.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 days ago (3 children)

You can make a perfectly serviceable peg leg with an old broom handle. Ask your insurance company for a free how-to brochure!

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 days ago

I think it's about time for an organized mass murder of all healthcare ceos.... Maybe then they'll learn? Or do we need to go after the shareholders too? What will it take? How can we make them quiver in their boots half as much as they fucked us out of paychecks only to tell us to get bent when we request the care we've paid for?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 days ago (2 children)

This leads me to question the social necessity of companies gatekeeping medical services

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 days ago

Insurance companies push obvious lies to intentionally defraud the public. That's their entire buisness model. That's why your doctor had to fight through dozens of automatic rejections sent by the insurance company, they fully intend to lie in order to avoid making payments they agreed too when signing you up for insurance. A just society would be putting these people in federal prisons.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Okay, I can spell out the "medical necessity" for you insurance companies in a way you'll understand: mental health is important for physical health. You do things to improve mental health and you also improve physical health. So if you improve someone's mental health now, you won't be paying out for all of the later physical problems brought on by the stress and the knowledge that their life would be better if only some more miserly than Scrooge insurance company would let them have a fucking leg.

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