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Ukrainian officials say their military is now using a long-range missile that was designed and manufactured domestically and can reach targets inside Russia

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[–] [email protected] 51 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ukrainian officials say their military is now using a long-range missile that was designed and manufactured domestically and can reach targets inside Russia — a potentially crucial capability because the United States and other Western supporters have imposed restrictions on using weapons they donate to strike Russian territory.

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, posting on the social media platform Telegram, said Ukrainian forces had successfully hit a target 700 kilometers (435 miles) away, using a missile “of our own production.”

The secretary of Ukraine’s National Security and Defense Council, Oleksiy Danilov, said Friday that the missile could travel farther but did not specify its full range.

“Sevastopol is waiting, Kamchatka is waiting, Kronshtadt is waiting,” Danilov wrote, perhaps with some exaggeration. Kamchatka, in Russia’s Far East, is about 4,500 miles from Ukraine. Reaching it would require an intercontinental ballistic missile, which only 10 countries in the world are believed to possess.

Ukrainian forces are increasingly striking at targets inside Russia and occupied Crimea — which Russia invaded and illegally annexed in 2014. Most of the Ukrainian strikes involve self-destructing water or aerial drones, and units of the country’s intelligence services. Ukraine often denies any connection to such the attacks, but officials privately confirm the strikes or issue statements celebrating them and indicating the involvement of Ukraine’s military or special services.

“The war is increasingly moving to Russia’s territory, and it cannot be stopped,” Ukrainian presidential adviser Mykhailo Podolyak tweeted Wednesday, after a drone attack on an airfield in Pskov, Russia, damaged or destroyed several military planes.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Kamchatka WTF? Anyone who has played Risk knows that Kamchatka is a long way from Ukraine.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Range is one thing. Hopefully it's accurate or else who knows what they would hit. It wouldn't look good if they hit civilians by accident.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm more surprised about Kaliningrad, what route would that even be?!

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

Poland will write a very strongly worded letter to Zelensky if that happens. They might even keep a straight face when delivering it to the Ukrainian ambassador.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

R-36 "Satan" was desinged by and manufactured at Yuzhmash, now Pivden'mash, located in Dnipro, Ukraine. More recently, Pivden'mash has been building "Zenit" rockets, that has >70 successful launches and has a 13.7 t payload to LEO.

I think Ukraine is mostly waiting for a proper excuse rather than capabilities to send non-nucler ICBM in towards strategic locations in Russia.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Or, they've found a viable way to disguise donated long-range missiles so they can be used to strike back at Russia without implicating the country that provided them.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago

These are 100% identifiable from debris. No one would be fooled by such a farce.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

At this point, if Russia stated they were hit with a long range missile from "Country X" and provided pictures of identifiable debris, would anyone actually believe them?

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago

Hexbear would!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I doubt anyone would actually care. They're getting weapons from NATO members, Russia wouldn't do anything in retaliation.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Russia would VERY MUCH care, and so would any NATO nation for what it'd mean. If a NATO weapon hits Russia, Russia will at minimum start actually threatening nuclear strikes, and probably throw down a lot more of their military to start threatening NATO directly.

No, they wouldn't win sh*t anyways, even if they started using the four nukes that are still operational, but a properly thrashing Russia would be very ugly for the whole region regardless of how fast NATO 'could' end Russia.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Russia has already threatened nuclear strikes. Russia is all threats and no hot sauce. No one believes Putey any more.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Oh I know, but after he'd me making threats he actually meant (and still couldn't pull off) while impotently pounding his fist on a mile long table.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

does it matter?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That would have been a possibility if someone donated them some. Wich isn't the case yet, at least officially.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You're not going to officially admit to receiving a missile you're planning to plausibly deny using.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Sure. Absence of proof isn't proof of absence, but nor is it a proof of occurence. Best we can do is to wait for someone to do an error in order to be able to know a bit more.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago

Ukraine has designed many very successful weapon, I wonder how their new stuff works. We’ll have to wait the end of this terrible war for this. Slava Ukraini

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


MUKACHEVO, Ukraine — Ukrainian officials say their military is now using a long-range missile that was designed and manufactured domestically and can reach targets inside Russia — a potentially crucial capability because the United States and other Western supporters have imposed restrictions on using weapons they donate to strike Russian territory.

The secretary of Ukraine’s National Security and Defense Council, Oleksiy Danilov, said Friday that the missile could travel farther but did not specify its full range.

Russia is “already feeling” the effect of the new missiles, Danilov said on Ukrainian television, adding: “Production is underway.”

The Ukrainian officials’ statements could not be independently verified, and did not provide further details such as when the missile was fired, what object was struck, or where.

If confirmed, however, a domestically produced long-range missile would be a threshold development for the Ukrainian military, which has been denied similar weapons by Western backers for fear of provoking Russian President Vladimir Putin.

Most of the Ukrainian strikes involve self-destructing water or aerial drones, and units of the country’s intelligence services.


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