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[–] [email protected] 189 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Heard this once said: Caine played his character as a very straight human, while Tim Curry played his character in Muppet's Treasure Island like he's himself an unhinged muppet. To the credit of both of these actors, it works perfectly in their respective movies.

[–] [email protected] 102 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Someone described respectful ways of interacting with children similarly


you can bring yourself down to their level, or you can bring them up to yours. Both are respectful, and there's no "talking down" to anyone.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 3 weeks ago

Bringing them up is real neat

Next thing you know they’re talking all smart!

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Bringing yourself to their level is real neat.

Why would you give the child the curse of ripping them from childhood? Why rob yourself the opportunity to revisit the magic of childhood?

Hand them the Scout action figure, grab the Batman, because Rita Repulsa wants to blow up the sun, and only you two can stop her!

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Repulsa wants to blow up the sun, and only you two can stop her!

Just want you to know we're all rooting for you!

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

The Jim Henson Company was excellent at that. They always approached young audiences with respect above all. That's how Sesame Street works.

Speaking of which, I saw that HBO was pulling out of their deal with Sesame Street. Should we organize like a fundraising drive for that? The idea of Big Bird being off the air...isn't okay.

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[–] [email protected] 154 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

According to an interview with Brian Henson, the director, when he reached out to Michael Caine for the role, Caine responded, "I'm going to play this movie like I'm working with the Royal Shakespeare Company. I will never wink, I will never do anything Muppety. I am going to play Scrooge as if it is an utterly dramatic role and there are no puppets around me."

[–] [email protected] 115 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Which was absolutely the right call. If I can borrow a line from Jay Bauman, Ebenezer Scrooge does not sanction this buffoonery. In his eyes (at the beginning of the story at least) hanging decorations and singing and playing and such make everyone looks ridiculous to him.

The whole goddamn story is about Scrooge being a man who takes himself too goddamn seriously.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

drunken blinking at the camera

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 weeks ago

Jay smiles as he relates the tale of Scrooge to the ending of Society

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago

God bless him, one and all.

[–] [email protected] 138 points 3 weeks ago

Caine is the latest of many human actors (including the great Orson Welles) to fight for screen space with the Muppets, and he sensibly avoids any attempt to go for a laugh. He plays the role straight, and treats the Muppets as if they are real. It is not an easy assignment.

- Roger Ebert

[–] [email protected] 115 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The great thing about the Muppet movies is that all the characters are treated as if they're human. It's like nobody realizes they're talking to a felt frog.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

It's even better than that - they sometimes acknowledge they're talking to a frog, or a rat, or even a puppet. It's just normal.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 weeks ago

There’s an exchange in The Great Muppet Caper that goes like:

Human: “You're a frog, and you’re a dog, and you’re a… um….”

Gonzo: “A whatever.”

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago

I love Porco Rosso. It's animated and set in the real world with real just pre-WW2 stuff happening in the background. But the main character is a pig who flies a sea plane. Someone mentions a curse once. No one treats this as weird. No one else is an animal. I love it.

[–] [email protected] 92 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I think we can all agree that, creatively, it worked perfectly.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago

Who's the one mofo who disagreed?! That better be a fat thumb, mister!

[–] [email protected] 53 points 3 weeks ago (12 children)

I think they could muppetize most movies and come out with bangers

[–] [email protected] 36 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (14 children)

Literally all movies in existence would be improved if there were Muppets in them

[–] [email protected] 31 points 3 weeks ago

they should just release muppet version of movies, like LEGO does with videogames

[–] [email protected] 23 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 weeks ago

Elmo as the girl with the red coat

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago

It is the only way I would accept a remake of my favorite, which is the Princess Bride.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago

Lars Von Trier's Muppet Antichrist would certainly be something

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

First 20m of the movie are exactly the same as the original Matrix

The pill is taken, he awakens in his pod

As Fozzie

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago

Unconventional pick for Muppet Morpheus: Doctor Teeth

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm waiting for the Kill Bill movies with Muppets. Imagine Miss Piggy as Beatrix Kiddo, Muppet version of the Crazy Eighty Eight, or Fozzy playing Buck?

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 3 weeks ago

I read a fun story about that movie the other day. When they test-marketed it for kids, they asked what the rats did wrong to get coal at the end. Brian Henson and the others hadn't even made that connection.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

And that is exactly the silliest thing Michael Caine could have done, and it deserves a standing ovation or three.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 weeks ago (8 children)

Oh, I just finally watched this for the first time. If your interested, I wrote my thoughts but you can skip that if your just looking for a good Christmas movie then do it. Out of six or so I have watched, this definitely was my favorite.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

If you can, find the non-widescreen DVD version.

They left the most important, emotional scene of the film (along with the song they used a "pop" version of for the ending credits anyway) out of the theatrical cut of the film.

It's the scene where Scrooger gets dumped, and there's a beautiful duet of Michael Caine singing along with his ex-fiance as his heart breaks and he starts to become human.

Without that scene, he suddenly goes from being the man at the beginning of the film to the much friendlier Scrooge with the Giant.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 weeks ago

Best, period.

We see it in the theater each Christmas season.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 weeks ago

What’s crazy is that this movie was hated when it came out. People had no taste back then

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

As if I don't watch this movie enough throughout the year already (I try to alternate between this one and Muppet Treasure Island)... Time to fire it up again. Merry Christmas, Lemmy! 🎄🎅⛄

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 weeks ago

Completely serious Michael Caine dancing with a giant Muppet

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

My favorite serious Christmas Carol - The one with Patrick Stewart in it

My favorite silly Christmas Carol - Musical with Kelsey Grammer and Jason Alexander

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago

great actor, mycocaine

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