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I don't really have a question but I want to talk about noodles, please. Is a tamale a noodle or a sandwich?

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (9 children)

Technically, a tamale is a calzone according to the cube rule.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I understand the cube rule, I just don't think I can really subscribe to it. Calling a bowl of lucky charms nachos is inaccurate, it's clearly a soup.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Exactly, cube rule is inconsistent and needlessly complicated. Both are salads

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

woah, this is why i have reached out to The Internet.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Tamales are open on one side when they're steamed. That makes them quiche by this rule.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Didn’t know I could be more upset about this argument but this rule really takes the ~~cake~~ sandwich. Though for this specific instance, I agree it’s a calzone.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Isn’t the whole point of “toast” that it’s bread that is toasted? How can sushi, an undeniable raw food be “toast”? I’ll accept the cube rule, but toast needs a new classification.,

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Oh this is fantastic! Thanks for this.

Also, first kbin/post-Reddit post. Woo.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Does this mean I can get thin crust tamales in New York, and grease death tamales in Chicago

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

What the...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I love how "toast" includes sushi as an example but sushi doesn't

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This type of food taxonomy is always fascinating and disturbing, as it tends to spawn even more unhinged classifications (ravioli is a dumpling. A bowl of cereal is a salad).

That being said, the most politically neutral take would be that tamales are a pie.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

cereal is soup and i will fight anyone on this

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Are you saying ravioli is not a dumpling?

I am joining you in the tamales are a pie camp though.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Neither! A tamale is corn masa with typically a meat filling. You could consider it a dumpling or a pie. Noodles do not have a stuffing and sandwiches tend to have a distinct layers. I would consider a taco or maybe a gordita a sandwich, but not a tamale. Although this does make me wonder, what would a burrito be classified as? (not counting wrap because that is too easy)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

A burrito is um... a form of a tamale. Actually, it's sushi

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No. The point of noodles is that they hold their form without any help when you cook them. Without their leafy containers, tamales would be more like polenta/corn meal mush--also yummy but not noodly.
https://prnt.sc/4atIxUL1D90X R-amen.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Seems like a somewhat arbitrary requirement.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Not, say, if you want to make cacio e pepe. (I'm a new reddit refugee, so I haven't figured out how to respond to a comment.)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I am angry at the very notion that a tamale could be a noodle.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I mean kinda? We need to decide how a noodle and a dumpling differ.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I'd say a tamale is a dumpling.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As a Mexican, I am very disturbed by this question. It's not stupid (that doesn't exist in this community), it's just disturbing xD

No, a tamale is not a noodle. Noodles don't have fillings, are longer, and thinner. It's like asking if ravioli is a noodle.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As someone from the U.S. who grew up eating Mexican food in Texas, I agree. It is disturbing. The filling is very important to a tamal. They aren't bendy or thin either. Noodles are thin and bendy

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

i am new mexico af and i respect your carne guisada, but really. NM food kills it. Please come over to Santa Fe and check out green chile Carne Adovada. "Texas" lol

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

closer to a pie, as pies as have filling.

noodles don't have filling

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

what is ravioli? And, is ravioli a dumpling?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I would say ravioli is not a noodle, and could be called a dumpling, yes.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

David Chang argues that ravioli are dumplings on Ugly Delicious.

I’m inclined to agree in that dumplings and ravioli are the same general idea implemented by different culinary traditions.

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