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It is clear that the signal to noise ratio of the WWW is getting worse. It's much harder to find good content when using a good old search engine. And if it's good it is usually hosted on Reddit or Stackexchange.

So remember, even if it's easy too Google something (well, it isn't nowadays), we want to create a fediverse of good content that helps people (I hope). So, it's always better to write a real answer if you have the time and energy. Please help boost the SNR and reverse the AI fueled information degradation loop.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago

Yes please don't do this. Google doesn't need more support either from search activity or inclusion into the vernacular. If someone is asking in the fediverse which is still a relatively small community, they are expressing a degree of patience with their answer that suggests they've already tried search and came up dissapointed or they are really lacidasical about their question and won't really mind if you just ignore it and move on. Taking the time to tell someone to websearch something is even more pathetic than a "this" reply.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago

While I don't think we can beat AI driven content degradation by outposting them, I still agree posting 'just Google it' does any good either.

Post an answer or link a topic which covered the same question in detail. But directing people to Google isn't something I'd advocate. Maybe tell them to Ecosiate it if you really have to.

Also it's just rude and creates an uninviting admosphere around here Imo.

But the AI issue can't be solved by users alone. It's moderation and maybe regulation which is needed here.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Even if you want to be snarky, at least do something like:

I [googled it](searchresult.com) for you.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago

Alternatively

I googled it for you

> Copy pasted answer in case the source disappears

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago (9 children)

Remeber for a while there used to be this website you'd create a link, which would direct you to a portal that would type your question into Google and hit enter. It was let me google that for you dot com or something.

It always felt like such a passive aggressive dick move 😂 when people just wanted answers from a real human they could interact with

We're all stupid about some things, but googling stuff has genuinely gotten harder these days. The answers are full of ads and AI garbage

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago (3 children)

"Just ChatGPT it" is going to become a thing.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago

Until it gets paywalled

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago

"Just make shit up" is basically saying the same thing.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago

Recursively google searching is an interesting case of the halting problem.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

While I agree that the search engine has gone to shit, the problem I have with people who ask really simple questions is that they haven't done the bare minimum to ask for help.

Simple questions have fairly popular answers and even an enshittified Google search will return the correct result within their fucking AI.

If you have a simple question and the answers seem confusing, tell us why the answers are confusing. Don't just ask the question.

Being able to Google your question is an important skill, but so is asking a question in a forum. Since forum posts are at their very nature asynchronous, being able to do your own searches shows those who are trying to help you that you have the skills to read their responses and extrapolate to your situation and then take the appropriate action.

I provide a lot of free support on various Linux and developer forums. The sheer number of people who want me to hold their hand is too high.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago (2 children)

There is no bare minimum to ask for help.

There is a bare minimum to responding to someone asking for help, though: Being willing to provide some. Replying to tell them they haven't earned the help yet is just being an asshole for the sake of feeling self-satisfaction, and it's actively making the Internet a worse place.

Don't do that shit. They don't need to know your feelings on the issue, and neither do the rest of us. Nobody asked about them.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Imagine asking chatgpt and it tells you to "Google it"

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

If someone actually wants help searching Lemmy or the Fediverse, I recommend this site: https://fedi-search.com/

Very simple, but it does the job. It's also good if one wants to learn advanced Google queries.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It’s too bad ChatGPT will never replace a real Reddit thread:

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