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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

Pfft, everyone knows the cool kids use Lynx.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (13 children)

What is the acceptable amount of ram a browser should be using? Is there a way of knowing how much is “wasted”? Is it even possible to waste ram, like what is wasted, time? Electricity?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Its being wasted if a memory leak causes it to use all 32 gigs of ram and crash

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Even if it doesn't eat that much if it latches on to a portion of Memory and won't give it up unless killed that's still bad, and would be considered wasted as nothing else can use it for anything.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Empty ram is wasted ram. In theory the system should use whatever is available to cache and streamline.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

If an app allocates it and ever uses it and refuses to give it up unless killed that can be considered wasted. It's called a memory leak and they can be really bad, especially when they consume a lot of memory, as that memory might as well be empty but is being held hostage by other apps.

If they released RAM then whatever amount they were using wouldn't be wasted and if more is needed they'd simply release it to free up resources. That hasn't been happening though, and most modern Browsers are notorious for consuming massive quantities without releasing it back to the pool.

In that case with the presence of Memory leaks being considered, and the fact that they continue to not be fixed, the acceptable amount of RAM a browser should be using (should even have access to) is the minimum necessary to run smoothly. From my testing with Firefox that seems to be 8GB. 4GB caused many websites to struggle. Such an arrangement ensures that even if a Browser begins eating RAM it won't eat up all the RAM and cause issues, worst that'll happen is that it itself will crash from eating all the 8GB it was allowed to access.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Sorry, the only solution is the web aborting JavaScript. never going to happen. trust me, i stand with richard stallman when it comes to javascript.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

wat. lol. javascript has nothing to do with the memory consumption. just humans being shitty at their jobs.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

Disagreed, memory Limiting definitely helps with over-consumption. Can't consume all the RAM when you only have access to 8GB of it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What's his stance on javascript? Banned totally on the web?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

he doesn't want it banned, but he wants it open, like libreJS

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Ah ok, totally fair IMO. Locked down languages just suck after their counterparts have moved forward (like c# or java).

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I mean, it depends on the type of person you are i guess. are you writing code for work? Or is it for yourself? I myself feel like i want to walk down the path richard walks down, and dump all this crap we use and run, and go 100% libre. It's not like i have any friends and don't really communicate with the outside world much other than in person with family or on places like lemmy.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

wait is that that shoebill

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)
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[–] dsilverz 3 points 1 month ago (3 children)

One could also use w3m or links. All the RAM-hungry things (such as CSS3, JavaScript APIs and heavy multimedia files) will be finally gone for good.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

*lynx (links are the things that tie the www together)

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

I still think the catgirl paws salute should be the new salute of the American Résistance.

I also think the catgirl paws salute should be recognized as a salute.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I've been using the Firefox extension "Auto Tab Discard", which helps a lot with RAM usage. I like multi-tab-browsing and IME browsers just don't free up RAM when other applications need them.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

wait so you just lose tabs you haven't opened in X mins?

i have a tab sleeping extension & generally throttle the ram with opera

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It might be a bit of a misnomer. The tabs aren't deleted, just forcibly unloaded, and you can even prevent it from doing that on a per-tab-basis.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

I mean, you got like a 85% chance that anyone giving you software advice is, closer to 98% for hardware advice.

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