It seems to really have alienated a number of people and prevented them from posting. This is a great shame because I felt that hexbears’s momentum and place of online leftism was really starting to shine in the days after the election. This is the most important time for there to be an alternative on the left and we’re wasting it, with what appears to be the start of another struggle session caused by mods unilaterally deciding things.

I don’t really have a solution or more to say, more just this dump of feelings

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[–] 107 points 2 years ago (9 children)

Just keep posting. If the poster ahead of you should upvote the wrong post and be banned, pick up their keyboard and press onwards

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  • [–] 85 points 2 years ago

    Nothing more leftist than fucking up the vibes for no reason at the worst possible time.

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  • [–] 76 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

    I've tried my best to stay out of the struggle sessions but it feels like the mods keep doing foolish things and pissing off people more and more. HB does feel a lot slower and I hope it's not because people are afraid to upbear/post.

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  • [–] 59 points 2 years ago (6 children)

    Sure it was the struggle session? Even now I feel the details of the session fading away like fingerprints on an abandoned handrail

    I feel like it's more post-election malaise, same thing happened back in 2020 after Biden won, alot of bored posting, and I'm leavin, I'm back, I'm leavin, I'm back posts too

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  • [–] 32 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I feel like the almost back-to-back "Dunk Tank" struggle session and then "Upvote Ban" struggle session probably burned a lot of people up. :/

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  • [–] 25 points 2 years ago

    then "Upvote Ban" struggle session

    I completely missed that one, but since neither of them come close to the vegan debacle of 2021, I feel it's safe to assume the site will survive this short period of unrest

    Like I said before, I think alot of these micromanaging debates over forum engineering stem from a misplaced frustration with the state of the world AS WELL as the continuing failure of federation over a year after it's launch, on top of the embarrassing and increasing 4chan-fication of lemmy as a whole

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  • [–] 55 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Yeah, I’m not exactly a power poster. I just like hexbear as Reddit but with far less shitty politics and cooperate astroturfing. However with these moderation struggle sessions I just find hexbear is less appealing. Hexbear is clearly a very important space to some people and who are getting very upset over things. And I think these events between these users and mods are chilling the community. It’s not a warm welcoming space to bring in new users and encourage interaction and exploring the community. Imagine your first interaction with the site: you open it up and the front page is all pinned posts about stupid drama. Even as a reasonably regular user I haven’t got time to read them and frankly don’t wish to. I’m sure I can’t be the only one who feels this way.

    FWIW on the current issue, I think upvotes are good for surfacing interesting content. That’s why Reddit was so good, it crowdsources the curation. A million users is a better sorter of content than a desk of moderators acting as content editors. They’re open to manipulation sure. But I’m not seeing too many issues on hexbear.

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    [–] 43 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Yeah it has been slow. Sucks. Genuinely are little concerned that we've reached a fulcrum, and without further action we're about to see the spiral of slower boards-->fewer people bothering to check Hexbear-->even slower boards-->new people who stumble upon HB who would otherwise have joined now just see it as kind of slow and empty like lemmygrad-->death

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  • [–] [S] 29 points 2 years ago

    Yes some real change needs to be made. I think anyone who has the time and is concerned about the sites future should apply to be a mod (with the newest mod drive) to try and do a lib and change the system from within.

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  • [–] 33 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    I think it's more that a lot of posts are getting consolidated into the megas. Which is good, but also bad.

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  • [–] 50 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Nah it's bad. Megas are cool for general discussion, but a forum like this relies on standalone posts. Otherwise, you're just making a discord server with extra steps. And there's a reason I'm here and not on discord ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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  • [–] 32 points 2 years ago

    not being allowed to bully libs has really ruined the soul of this subreddit (website), bring back hexbear cyberbullying pls doggirl-tears

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  • [–] 28 points 2 years ago

    Every struggle session is like this. Folks will trickle back in with alts and mostly it'll be fine.

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  • [–] 27 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    The news mega is poppin; God’s in His heaven All ’s right with the world!

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  • [–] 20 points 2 years ago

    One would hear that and wonder if seeing a large number of comments being made there means something goods happened or something bads happened.

    Its like a random chance box but as a forum. It's like rolling the silly d10,000 wild magic surge list. When you go on the site, scroll all the way down then roll d100, select the result from the list below, then roll again to determine the exact effect. DISCLAIMER: I did not read all 10,000 things yet so let me know if anything egregious pops up

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  • [–] 27 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    it'll be okay. make some GOOD posts

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    I'm personally satisfied with the mod explanation on that but I understand why it might not be enough to remove fears for others. I trust that this whole experience will help it stay rare and for egregious circumstances

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  • [–] 25 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    It's ok I'm gonna post butts to bring everyone back

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  • [–] 22 points 2 years ago

    Never Stop Posting

    change-da-world-1change-da-world-2

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  • [–] 22 points 2 years ago (10 children)

    What struggle session? Was it the vegans again?

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  • [–] 34 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    No a bunch of people were up voting some tailist shit and mods used the view up vote tool to see who was agreeing with it and some folks caught some strays. Only temp bans were issued over it and tbh I think most of them could have been corrected verbally unfortunately this is not that sort of medium and some of our lgbtq and poc comrades were uncomfortable with a particular comment being up voted so much. Was it an overcorrection? Perhaps but it is not the massive problem people are making it out to be.

    I am on team remove upvotes.

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  • [–] 34 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    No it was the rock stackers complaining about outdoor cats knocking down their Babylonian towers

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  • [–] 22 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Which one? Deleting the dunk tank or the other one?

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    [–] 21 points 2 years ago (14 children)

    Time to start a new struggle session

    Um i think pineapple is good on pizza

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    [–] 19 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    What did you nerds do this time?

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    [–] 18 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    Idk, I've been interacting less since I started using matrix a lot more, though I was never a capital P Poster. Turns out the Internet keeps re-discovering that yes in fact chat rooms are the most personal way to hang out and be social together. Alor at least I keep rediscovering it for myself. I'm not leaving any time soon though.

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  • [–] 19 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    i just feel like i can't keep up with chat rooms. i used to love them. but i work such long hours

    here i can have a slow moving short conversation over many days between shifts. sure it's not as personal, and feels kind of drive-by.

    i recognize lots of people here but takes years to get to know anyone. but yeah back in the early days of chatrooms i made some RL relationships. deep ones. some leading to in person meetups

    learned about my queerness, transness. so yeah i do miss that.

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