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[–] 194 points 3 years ago (2 children)

I don't trust homophobes or cryptobros, especially not those with a history of selling users out like Brendan Eich

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    [–] 147 points 3 years ago (14 children)

    Very strongly worded, but yes.

    Brave have had a history of controversy since their inception. Every time something happens, the CEO went on a marketing campaign across social media and drummed up enough new users to drown it out. However the attitude of the business is clear: it would take a very small sack of money for Brave to sell out its users.

    If you're going to use a Chromium web browser, there are non-commercial open source projects that don't have a history of shady shit. However Firefox forks are better.

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    [–] 113 points 3 years ago (12 children)

    People that use Brave always remind of the people pushing crypto.

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    [–] 113 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    Why was appointing Eich as CEO so controversial? It's because he donated $1,000 in support of California's Proposition 8 in 2008, which was a proposed amendment to California's state constitution to ban same-sex marriage.

    Which is all the reason I need.

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    [–] 71 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (25 children)

    Not a single solid reason given in this unhinged rent except a mention of that affiliate link fiasco, which even they themselves agree was a major fuckup.

    All BAT and crypto stuff are completely opt-in and it barely takes a few clicks to set the browser to never let you see that side of it again. As for Brendan's political affiliations, most users couldn't care less. He might as well be a furry flat-earther but if the product is good, it is good. Stop acting like you're sure all the things you use throughout the day aren't made by people with doubtful leanings.

    I personally don't use Brave on desktop, Firefox is good enough; but it is the best option on Android currently since Bromite is almost always a Chromium version behind whatever is current.

    Edit: Just learnt that I was wrong in my perception of what "furry" meant. Reading the replies objecting to that reference made me dig a bit deeper and realise that it's just a type of fandom, and not some sex-deviant cult that pop media made me believe. Sorry for the wrong example.

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  • [–] 91 points 3 years ago (3 children)

    As for Brendan’s political affiliations, most users couldn’t care less. He might as well be a furry but if the product is good, it is good. Stop acting like you’re sure all the things you use throughout the day aren’t made by people with doubtful leanings.

    1. People do care about Eich's beliefs, or this discussion wouldn't even be happening.

    2. There's nothing wrong with being a furry, and trying to compare it as though it's equivalent or worse than being a shitbag bigot is bullshit.

    3. If you know that the people who run a company are bigots and you continue to use their products and services, you are giving your explicit approval to who they are and what they do. "if the product is good, it is good" absolutely fucking not. Goods and services don't exist in a vacuum.

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  • [–] 82 points 3 years ago

    Not a single solid reason given in this unhinged rent except a mention of that affiliate link fiasco, which even they themselves agree was a major fuckup.

    That's pretty dismissive of a feature that could only have been added intentionally. It's not like there was some accidental glitch that was adding affiliate suffixes on the end of links.

    What we have here is a business poking and prodding and seeing what they can get away with. You've said that there's only one thing they did that's truly out of line, while glossing over the fact that most of what they do is borderline. Their intent is clear.

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  • [–] 27 points 3 years ago

    Not a single solid reason given

    Well not to you, but that doesn't mean much considering you think spyware is fine as long as it's opt-in (and that being a furry is equivalent in severity to being homophobic, wtf). The fact that you think this article is bad is basically a ringing endorsement.

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    [–] 66 points 3 years ago (7 children)

    To anyone reading this article, only the first quarter of it is about the beliefs and political stance of the developers. The rest of the article after that goes into more technical reasons.

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  • [–] 41 points 3 years ago (6 children)

    All I needed to read was in the first paragraph.

    Brave Software, the company behind the browser of the same name, was founded by Brendan Eich. He's best known as the creator of JavaScript from his days at Netscape Communications

    I mean, JS is his baby that's all there needs to be said about the person's motivations.

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  • [–] 60 points 3 years ago (30 children)

    I love Brave, use it daily, and this article didn't convince me at all. Vaguely motioning at the founder's ancient political donations or the optional crypto features, doesn't make a strong case.

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    [–] 53 points 3 years ago

    The moment my cryptofan buddy started talking up brave, I knew it was time to uninstall.

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  • [–] 51 points 3 years ago (5 children)

    It should've been as simple as stop using any chromium-based browser, but the CEO is also super bigoted, doing ad theft, and pushing crypto scams.

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    [–] 45 points 3 years ago (8 children)

    Stop telling me what to do

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    [–] 44 points 3 years ago

    Now it makes sense why some of the Fox News-parroting, right wing people I know use Brave. I had no idea about what the author mentioned about the browser, I just know it is based on Chromium which I will not use. Thus, I am on Firefox. And for many reasons, including those the author laid out, I'm happy I chose wisely.

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  • [–] 42 points 3 years ago

    Don't need to tell me twice. I've distrusted Brave since I saw their advertisement for it. It just feels like they sell the browser in same mood as pyramid schemers does their products.

    But its just my gut feeling. Got no good reason why people should avoid the browser. And because the CEO is an ass isn't a good enough reason for most people.

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  • [–] 38 points 3 years ago (19 children)

    if you useanything alphabet like chromium, then YOU are the problem.

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  • [–] 76 points 3 years ago* (17 children)

    I think it’s pretty unfair to put all of the blame on everyone who uses a chromium browser, considering that most people with a computer have no idea what the hell you are talking about.

    Google Chrome is the single most popular web browser. Everyone’s work uses it, everyone’s school uses it, why would they possibly question it? And then they discover a new browser someone recommended - why would they look into “chromium” and what it all means? It’s just not reasonable to expect of nearly the entire population at this stage.

    Take your anger out on the company and educate people. This is a problem of education, not selfishness (on the part of the user).

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    [–] 33 points 3 years ago

    Isn't this like the fourth time this has been posted? the conversation always goes around in circles with nobody changing their mind.

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  • [–] 31 points 3 years ago

    I never used brave. I wasn't interested in it since I learned it was chromium and all the crypto stuff.

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