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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I see a lot of mostly correct answers here, but as a trans person myself I can't help but feel they are all missing the core concept.

People hate trans folk for the same reason "get back in the kitchen" is still said to women in any non-"traditional" role or the "angry black man/woman" is said about anyone advocating for their own rights. There are strict gender and racial roles that are enforced by our society so rigidly, that many have assumed them to be naturally correct laws of the universe. Anyone existing outside of those roles is seen as either mental illness to be corrected or malicious evil-doers wanting to cause trouble.

When in fact the reality is much simpler, that being human is a more diverse expressive and dynamic experience than those holding on to those "natural laws" would like to admit. To exist outside the role you were "assigned" is a threat to society that assigns the roles, ergo a threat to the very way of life for those who see gender, sexual and racial hegemony as innate truths.

Conservatives who hold high tradition are naturally the first to speak out and seek to regulate us back in to "normal society" via legislation but liberals are absolutely not immune. To reduce transphobia to a political wedge issue, while correct, doesn't quite explain the more innocuous yet quite prevalent transphobia inside left leaning spaces.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago

some schmucks want to exploit the very basic fear of the unfamiliar, and they pointed it at trans folk to get votes or whatever.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Gender and separation of humans based on those lines have been a thing for longer than humans even called themselves "humans", and transpeople threaten that. So it triggers a flight or fight reflex in people who aren't used to the concept.

I find when people know me for awhile and THEN find out I'm trans, their reaction is less "I'm scared", and more "That's neat", but if people find out I'm trans before they get to know me, they will be hostile the whole time.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

Not that it really matters as a legitimate cause to dislike trans people, but the 2023 Nashville shooting at a school was done by a trans person.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I only know of one, and she's an expert at everything related to fiber channel and tape drives. So I guess it might be that US conservatives are ideologically opposed to cheap long term offline storage.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

This is America, we store things in the iCloud or the garage.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

First, I'd challenge the 'most people' part. In my experience most people really, truly do not care one way or the other if someone is trans. But to be fair, this may vary between countries, societies, etc.

Edit: I wrote a bunch of other stuff here, but wasn't happy reading it back. Someone else here said religion and bad science, which is close enough to the point I was trying to make that I'll just say that.

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[–] [email protected] -2 points 23 hours ago
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (9 children)

Ok, am conservative.

I'm going to give my thoughts.

So I'm fine with most things between consenting adults. The problem is when there isn't consent and in a larger group, a lack of consensus.

Kids can't consent, and despite claims to the contrary, there's been a couple of trans kids. The issue I see is the amount of push back on passing laws against trans kids. Why on earth do y'all care so much about banning something that isnt happening?

I'm not into sports, but I can see how unfair it is when a bio man fights a bio woman. Even if they're taking mtf hormones, there's still a ton of testorone. Just from a safety aspect, they shouldn't allow bio men in women's boxing or MMA or anything like that. Chess and stuff of that nature doesn't really care about the sex that much. And there's been more a couple of sports women who are against it too. There's a lack of consensus.

As an aside, we were making a ton of progress against gender roles, and now here we are reinforcing them. Can't even wear drag now without being called trans. It's annoying.

Why are you guys so obsessed with labels? Let dudes wear dresses and women wear whatever. You don't need a label for it.

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[–] [email protected] -3 points 23 hours ago

At this point I'm assuming that loads of them either want to be trans, want to have sex with a trans person, but they feel they can't do either because they were told it's evil

It's the same as the gay hating, any guy very visibly hating gays always ends up snorting cocaine from a gay escort dick.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

It's who their owners say to hate, so they hate them. Could be anyone and for no or any reason. They're cultists and they do, say, hate, and fear who they're told to.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

Because they tell teenagers that you might accidentally kiss a man and let hormones and immaturity handle the rest.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Not most. Your premise is faulty

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (2 children)
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