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[–] [email protected] 65 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Age is a factor sure. But Democrats need to stop being centrists and move left if they have any hope in appealing to the masses. The DNC needs to also reflect this change. Otherwise they'll just push for a moderate like Biden again.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (7 children)

I don't think that's true. The majority of the U.S. isn't as left leaning as we'd like to believe they are.

Edit: Downvote all you want. Lemmy is a very left leaning site, and not at all representative of the wider population.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 21 hours ago

You're right but I don't think the general population is as right leaning as they believe they are, either. It's a team they root for and identify with.

Anecdotally, I have very conservative family members who will agree with many progressive ideas until they realize they're agreeing with democrats. Then they're pissed!

[–] HobbitFoot 5 points 16 hours ago

Yeah, but recent elections show that's what gets people to show up to vote.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

i think i agree. data shows a large amount of americans want policies that the left supports, but they want those things because it benefits them, not because they believe in the ethical considerations or the ideals of collectivization. if they are promised by a fascist they'll get those policies as soon as they kick out target minority, then they'll gladly follow the fascist.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 21 hours ago

Just look at Missouri, votes for minimum wage increases and an abortion amendment but reelected GOP candidates across the board. The dems lost because of a mix of elitism and the fact that they were governing at a time when incumbants globally are being kicked out due to post-covid economies.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 21 hours ago

not because they believe in the ethical considerations or the ideals of collectivization

I mean okay. What point are you trying to make here?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 21 hours ago

America does lean right politically speaking, yes. And Lemmy as a whole is more left leaning. No argument there.

That being said, the election itself saw a poor turnout for Democrats thanks to some unpopular policies that were made to try and appeal to Republicans. This led to Harris to incrementally lose support over the weeks leading up to the election and which culminated in Trumps victory. She started off pretty strong. People wanted something new than what Biden had to offer, which was a moderate approach to politics when the other side are far-right fascists. But she stuck to the status quo as a whole and that backfired as the reasons why Biden was so unpopular (age aside) extended to her as well.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 21 hours ago

I mean how do you think Obama won? And Biden to a lesser extent.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 21 hours ago

I think you're right about this.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 21 hours ago

Good. These elders should have started training their replacements a long time ago.

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