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[-] ReadFanon@hexbear.net 35 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You know what I find really jarring about when there's a conlang or a different species in fantasy or scifi TV or film?

They clearly don't give the actors and instruction on pronunciation. They just cut them loose and you get actors who all have their individual takes on how to pronounce a word so they all say the word differently. Drives me absolutely nuts. Hire a linguist or a speech pathologist for a day as a consultant and get your pronunciations on the same page, please.

[-] Zorothamya@hexbear.net 40 points 1 year ago

speech pathologist

“I diagnose you with french.”

[-] nohaybanda@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago

damn, that's rough. I'm sorry to hear that, fam

[-] PoY@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 1 year ago

here's to hoping it ends swiftly and painlessly

[-] gobble_ghoul@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago

David J. Peterson has talked about it a couple of times. Sometimes he’s allowed to coach people on pronunciation and other times he’s not. Sometimes in the edit they will change their mind about what they want the translation of a line to be after filming or splice together different lines, so even though they had him go through the effort of making a conlang and the dialogue, they fuck it all up after the fact by not making sure it matches what the final product says.

Side note, I always thought it was funny that they had the Dothraki repeating “armor” with two tapped /r/ sounds after hearing someone with an accent that doesn’t pronounce /r/ there say it. They apparently had understanding of English writing despite not speaking it.

[-] ReadFanon@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago

Why am I not surprised at all to hear that a producer or a director would go and screw it all up like that?

Side note, I always thought it was funny that they had the Dothraki repeating “armor” with two tapped /r/ sounds after hearing someone with an accent that doesn’t pronounce /r/ there say it. They apparently had understanding of English writing despite not speaking it.

You get it! I feel so seen!! It's this shit that wrenches me out of my suspension of disbelief and it just hurts when shit like this happens.

[-] ThermonuclearEgg@hexbear.net 32 points 1 year ago

Making new languages is easy. Just keysmash with no defined meaning and let the Internet make up definitions.

a-little-trolling: "Covfefe"

[-] Owl@hexbear.net 23 points 1 year ago

and we'll call that language "bottom speak"

[-] Llituro@hexbear.net 31 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

we also got "new language but the phonetic inventory and grammatical features are just a remix of celtic languages like daddy tolkein intended"*

*i am aware that quenya is mostly finnish, don't at me nerds

[-] Llituro@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago

hence my username

[-] SuperZutsuki@hexbear.net 22 points 1 year ago

Run English through 6 different google translates into other languages, then cypher the result. bean-think

[-] Erika3sis@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago

foyü hë Xöxolü, yåtx' yiet hol äl xyü

Keyf = /h/

o = /e~ɛ/

y = /l/

ü = /ow/

h = /ð/

ë = /ə/

x = /s/

ö = /ɪ/

l = /ɹ/

å = /ʊ/

t = /k/

ie = /aj/

ä = /a~ɑ/

TranslationMorning Mr. Freeman, looks like you're running late.

[-] GoodGuyWithACat@hexbear.net 19 points 1 year ago

I don't make conlangs, I focus on important things in my world building. Like climate cells, warm/cold water currents, and predicted rainfall patterns.

And yet there's always a Mediterranean, Europe, and Middle East rage-cry

[-] gobble_ghoul@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago

More people need to learn how to make a naming language so they don’t have to worry about making a full-blown conlang.

[-] Dessa@hexbear.net 19 points 1 year ago

What's a naming language

[-] Llituro@hexbear.net 19 points 1 year ago

you learn just enough linguistics to make a language skeleton with consistent names that don't sound like 1) english but not or 2) what an english person thinks language X sounds like where X is Arabic for people in an arid climate, etc. this is much less complex than making an entire language with a full enough dictionary to express complex thoughts and grammatical rules just to have names for places

[-] NephewAlphaBravo@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago

angery

[-] Kaputnik@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago

Props to Tunic for making both a phonetic symbol based language and a musical note based language

[-] Bureaucrat@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I don't really enjoy conlangs at all. If you do all power to you, but nah not for me. I am not interested in an artificial language, I am much more interested in all the cultural aspects. "By the gods!" "By Odins' beard" "As the stars shine above" all those sayings, all the weird little intricacies and slang and so on. That I do enjoy. What do your people call monday? What's a holiday they enjoy, what's their dances like? What's their clothes like? How are the cities designed? What matters to them?

[-] Erika3sis@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago

If you don't like conlangs, then that's more a matter of not liking linguistics than a matter of preferring "cultural aspects" — because, at least if you're a good conlanger, you can't really separate the language from the culture.

[-] wtypstanaccount04@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago

paging @Erika3sis@hexbear.net

[-] Erika3sis@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago

When I was in my early teens I did both English with a cipher and Americanized Norwegian with a cipher, then I moved on to making an actual conlang that was shitty, then an actual conlang that was a little less shitty, then an actual conlang that was decent, then an actual conlang that was good-ish, and I've been slowly refining that one for many years now.

There isn't anything inherently wrong with making a relex (i.e. the writer's first language but with a cipher or word replacement), but there is a time and a place for it. Some people don't care about linguistics and they shouldn't force themselves to care, because it's going to show.

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