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The petition is open to all EU resident. The goal is to replace all Windows in all public institution in Europe with a sovereign GNU/Linux.

If the petition is successful it would be a huge step forward for GNU/Linux adoption.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 hours ago

For governments, I think the priority should be exchange and archive formats. Regardless of what apps and platforms they use, I as a citizen should be able to read that data via free software. Govt should be able to read what I provide to them. Govt in the future should be able to access archives if they have moved to free software.

Next is the platform ( the OS and the web browser ). You can run your proprietary video editing on Linux. If demand on the scale of ALL European gov moved to Linux, I assure you that Linux versions of the software they need would exist ( even if still proprietary ). I use Outlook on Linux every day. I also use Teams ( usually on Edge ). RMS would hate me. But I only archive to AV1 and Opus, never HEVC and AAC. Most of what I use is FOSS.

Least important really is the apps. I have no problem with companies solving problems better than FOSS and getting paid for it. Even by gov. As above though, those that do not need the “better” version should be free to use something else. And the “default” ( for things like basic docs ) should be FOSS too. This is just not as important as the file formats and platforms.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 148 points 6 days ago (30 children)

It’s ridiculous that governments don’t use customized Unix/Linux builds.

[–] [email protected] 59 points 6 days ago

well that's what this law proposition is about... Better late than never but for it to be passed a maximum of EU resident should sign that petition

[–] [email protected] 32 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Funny enough, I'm working in IT in government exclusively with Linux for the past 20 years, which shows that indeed it's possible.

There are a few reasons I don't believe a petition like this will change a thing though

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

This is an uphill battle in the face of corporate lobbying, learned fixedness, and, let's face it, unintuitive UX that is found in some selection of FLOSS which is often absent in proprietary counterparts: something that people who are not tech savvy (tech-indifferent?) would prefer not to put up with.

However, I think the last problem can be mitigated with the right kind of focus and funding from such initiatives.

There have been many such initiatives[0][1] over the years in different countries where they eventually lose steam and fade away.

Also, is there an operating system backed or sponsored by EU that is actively maintained, analogous to BOSS[2] and Pardus[3]?

[0] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:State-sponsored_Linux_distributions

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Linux_adopters

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bharat_Operating_System_Solutions

[3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pardus_(operating_system)

E: typo

[–] [email protected] 38 points 5 days ago (3 children)

PSA: You can support this petition even if you're not an EU resident

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 5 days ago (1 children)

If they can keep the MS lobbyists out, it's feasible, just ask Munich.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 5 days ago

Except they couldn't keep the Micro$oft ~~criminals~~ lobbyists out

[–] [email protected] 27 points 5 days ago

Adopting Linux is the best way to help ensure European sovereignty from maga meddling.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I've always said governments and public institutions funded by taxpayers should use FLOSS and not be beholden to private companies. Any shortcomings or unfulfilled needs in Linux and FLOSS software would quickly be dealt with once large organizations like these started using it as the default, since they could easily fund whatever features or fixes are needed for significantly less money than they pay for proprietary software (especially now that these days they're forking over annual subscriptions), and thus they'd also have much more control over the making sure the software meets their needs.

It seems like a no-brainer to me. Maybe it wasn't in the earlier days of Linux but not for the last decade or so.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 5 days ago (11 children)

I mean I'd be fine with BSD too. the point should be to force public institutions to use FOSS

[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 days ago

FreeBSD is fine for servers I guess, but due that most server administrators know Linux better than any BSD, it's probably not going to be used much. BSD's also seem to be severely underfunded and the future of them seem vague.

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 5 days ago (6 children)

My main worry with Linux becoming more popular is that it will be attacked with more malware and viruses. I wouldn't mind though if Linux programmers could come up with better protection.

[–] [email protected] 54 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Linux is already what a decent chunk of servers run, so I don't really see it increasing malware.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 5 days ago (4 children)

The insecure parts of Linux is mostly on the DE side opposed to the core OS part that servers use. We absolutely will see more vulnerabilities in the future as Linux grows.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Most of the Windows malware gets deployed by some user downloading and executing random files they downloaded on the web. Since installing applications on Linux is usually done through some centralized package manager or app store (Flathub), it almost entirely eliminates this attack vector. Running random scripts from the internet by downloading them using curl and piping them into sudo bash is a whole nother issue though. Noob-friendly distros like Ubuntu should IMO have some safeguards in place to block these actions.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago

I like and support the idea in general, but the petition's scope is just too broad and lacks focus. Migrating to Linux? Sure, but let's not force a single distribution across the EU. New EU mobile OS? Nice idea, but there is no solid alternative unless a lot of time and money is spent on developing it.

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