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I don't just mean outrage or regular rage, I mean shock that someone was to the left of "legal weed and free college but only for those that operate a successful business for 3 years in a disadvantaged community" top-cop takes.

I think federating took them by surprise, looking back. For about a week, those smug liberals were at a loss to even fathom what Hexbears were saying, and could only chant bullshit about how we're Russian/Chinese bots.

Sure they still do that but they've slightly adapted to Hexbear presence.

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[–] [email protected] 150 points 1 year ago (10 children)

"I'm as left as they come, but I trust the CIA and support every US foreign policy position" fedposting

[–] [email protected] 96 points 1 year ago (7 children)

the media are bad and duplicitous and lie all the time to make money for their capitalist owners. except about Venezuela, Cuba, Bolivia, China, Stalin and the DPRK, I still believe all those lies because I'm a good kid and so is America

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[–] [email protected] 93 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Honestly I am not that left. I just want an internationalist world order in which the means of productions are under shared democratic rational control of the working class to enable survival on the world, sustainable eco systems and the realm of freedom which enables us to work little and enjoy being humans for the sake of being human. That isn't that much.

[–] [email protected] 59 points 1 year ago

Yeah I'm authoritarian; I love dictatorships.

spoiler


OF THE PROLETARIAT

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[–] [email protected] 130 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Aren't they pretending to believe we're all Republicans doing a three year long larp as leftists?

[–] [email protected] 98 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

That's their latest thing yeah. "Well see you both agree with Republican ideas of isolationism and therefore you must ACTUALLY be right wing."

Libs plz. We believe in US isolationism because we want the US to stop fucking around with the rest of the world and leave the rest of the world alone to figure itself out without being bombed and coerced into doing what the US wants the world to do. The right believes in US isolationism because they're nationalists who believe the US should only help ourselves and should never help anyone outside our borders. We're literally polar opposites. There is no overlap in those 2 viewpoints.

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[–] [email protected] 64 points 1 year ago (8 children)

YOU ARE A BOT

YOU ARE A BOT

YOU ARE ALL BOTS

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[–] [email protected] 59 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I knew it wasn't going to be long before they started calling us MAGA Communists. They can't fathom people who can laugh at Trump and not be completly deranged over him destroying DEMOCRACY ™ so we have to secretly be supporting him.

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 year ago

can't believe I've been working this desk job for 3 years already - I need to talk to my manager about moving up a GS step fedposting

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[–] [email protected] 121 points 1 year ago (6 children)

what's funny are the ones who think we're right-wing because they've never heard anyone criticize liberals from the left before

[–] [email protected] 74 points 1 year ago

Yeah that shit is hilarious. It's like finding out words mean different things in different places. It'd be like if I went to England and started arguing with people because they call apartments "flats."

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[–] [email protected] 94 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

I had to make a new main account on a different instance so I could maintain access to HexBear communities. I am so thrilled to finally be interacting with a community of actual leftists! Drag me further to the left daddies✊

[–] [email protected] 53 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Change over to a hexbear account so we don't see "lemme.ee" at the end of your name. I try not to, but I judge those users a lot more critically. (Half joke)

But really, welcome and hope you find what you're looking for!

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[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 year ago (1 children)

smh this is commie mommy erasure sicko-fem

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[–] [email protected] 90 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Liberals either think or want to think they have a monopoly on being "the left wing party". They also don't want to think too hard, and are at their heart capitalist, which means they prefer a prescribed identity that requires no effort on their part.

One of the more interesting takes I've ever heard on Trillbillies podcast was that the Democratic Party is mostly a lifestyle brand at this point. One that's designed to make the member look good, virtuous and just, but not requiring any participation. They have just enough stolen accolades that were really hard fought movements from grassroots organizing to point at so they can say "we"re the good guys".

Well thought out and well read political leftists pose a threat to their cultural hegemony and therefore undermine their manufactured righteousness. If enough people got wind that the DNC and their voters are basically a paper tiger in the face of a fascist takeover, they will lose their cushy, do nothing lifestyles. They will either have to help us, or join the fash.

The real sad part is that it's mostly done for treats, and even those will get taken away as soon as the austerity a lot of us are already facing really kicks in.

Can't wait to be blamed for "taking grillman 's grill and steaks".

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[–] [email protected] 81 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Regarding competing 'echo chambers', we've been inoculated to liberalism because we get exposed to it on a nonstop near-daily basis in our work/social/ whatever lives and come here to gripe about that specicifically, meanwhile these libs have literally never been exposed to opinions to their left because they're used to living in exclusively fedposting curated spaces.

also I'm not a bot I'm a vocaloid, gosh commiku

[–] [email protected] 80 points 1 year ago

i like when i talk to someone who is american and im also american and i come from the point of view that america is the greatest force for evil in the world today and they think somehow that makes me a trump supporter

[–] [email protected] 75 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Our existence invalidates their entire worldview. Most online libs sense of self is that they are the good, smart people, and the only ones who could ever be opposed to them are the bad, dumb republicans (who for some reason are not irredeemable and we need a strong republican party for some reason shrug-outta-hecks

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[–] [email protected] 64 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Liberal here, sick to death or how condescending the democrats have become. I had a blast watching them froth at the mouths. It was beautiful.

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[–] [email protected] 68 points 1 year ago (5 children)

You'll fit right in, the secret is that we're all liberals here. Except for the one of us each week chosen by lottery to be the leftist.

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[–] [email protected] 55 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Be careful, we'll try to make you read things.

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[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You're either gonna leave and hate us or you're gonna stay and also hate us

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Why are you still a liberal as opposed to being a socialist like us?

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 70 points 1 year ago (19 children)

Respectfully, Capital is probably the absolute worst starting point for socialist theory.

Something like the Manifesto, The State and Revolution, or even Blackshirts and Reds would be much better starting points IMO

[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 year ago

the starting point is being poor and angry all the time tbh

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[–] [email protected] 64 points 1 year ago (6 children)

No, must have missed that being posted on the front page for weeks

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[–] [email protected] 63 points 1 year ago

"It is undeniable that all liberals are either pro-torture, or else not anti-torture"

Lemmitor: monke-rage

[–] [email protected] 61 points 1 year ago (1 children)

when people live in an echo chamber, the outside is scary and confusing

[–] [email protected] 55 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Sure, Hexbear was its own kind of echo chamber, but I think it got a weird sense of solidarity overall and the internal struggle sessions were mitigated somewhat by just how sheer fucking liberal the federated communities were revealed to be next door.

Especially programming.dev. What the fuck is up with those cryptofascists?

[–] [email protected] 62 points 1 year ago (3 children)

You get plenty of good folks in programming, but you also get high volumes of:

  • Stemlords
  • Bazingas
  • Temporarily embarrassed millionaires
  • Labor aristocrats
  • Misogynists

Lots of underlying drivers of reactionary thought.

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[–] [email protected] 51 points 1 year ago (23 children)

It's hilarious to see people call this place an echo chamber.

I don't know if I've ever seen a more divided group on literally any given topic.

I can say the word cats and start an argument where I'm taking shit from three different sides, pretty sure thats not an echo chamber.

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[–] [email protected] 56 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

A lot of them encountered the very thing they've been conditioned to feel disgust towards, and for a lot of them maybe for the very first time in their lives in a conversational capacity. These are people who are inundated on a near-daily basis with propaganda designed to twist the socialist narrative into one of death and destruction that leads to the inevitable collapse of all civilizations unfortunate enough to let it take root.

I don't think that the average liberal is totally apathetic towards everyone but themselves (I think a lot of us have probably identified as such before, be it as a child or long into adulthood,) but their ideas on human rights, social justice, and broader politics are incredibly underdeveloped. When you don't have a considerable wealth of knowledge or experience to draw on, you're a reactionary subject to the pull of your own gut feelings and the preconceived notions instilled in you by your peers.

What I'm getting at is that I think it's important to realize that a lot of the libs pissing their pants at the sight of evil tankies have absolutely no idea what a tankie is or does, and everything they do know is buried under 10 layers of disinformation. This doesn't absolve them of their crimes of grand dumbassery, but I think it's worth considering that a lot of these people would probably agree with much of what we had to say were we to peel back the layers of their programming. Alas, that isn't often realistic and frankly isn't solely* our responsibility.

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 year ago (5 children)

hexbear is definitely to the left of all the sites we federated to, and there has been some shit takes by our feddie comrades that were fun to laugh and dunk on, but i feel like we do have a responsibility to educate the other instances so long as they are willing to be educated. like im not at all against giving the other feds like blajah a second chance if they listen to us and understand why they suck.

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[–] [email protected] 53 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'll have to admit I was also knocked down by seeing liberal takes that are so outside of my frame of reference I didn't know anyone thought that way.

For example, there was this one user who had decided to die on the hill of getting rid of welfare because they felt people on it were just lazy.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

For example, there was this one user who had decided to die on the hill of getting rid of welfare because they felt people on it were just lazy.

What the fuck is left to be "progressive" about to that liberal, then?

RECRUIT - MORE - LGBTQIA+ - DRONE - OPERATORS? obama-drone

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[–] [email protected] 53 points 1 year ago (1 children)

liberals are the most detestable people because they can't even be honest with themselves about what they want

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[–] [email protected] 51 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

What they thought was extreme leftism: bernie

Hexbear: stalin-fancy lenin-laugh mao-wave marx blushing-engels trans-hammer-sickle soviet-chad china-stars

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Suddenly they're not "as left as they come, but..." They're just sniveling fascist with mask-on

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