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[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Bruh, just realized terraforming starts with terra and that's why it's what it's called

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

This is why it's silly hearing billionaires, who do the most damage to our planet, telling us how urgently we need to "get off this rock" which has supported life for millions of years in favor of some dead planet. It's really just an extension of capitalism that demands infinite space to exploit, instead of being content with sustainability.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

Elon’s argument for why we need to spread to other planets holds true even if everything on Earth were going perfectly.

It’s not about getting everyone off Earth - it’s about creating a backup for humanity on other planets. This ensures that the only known flame of consciousness in the universe isn’t extinguished by a nuclear war, pandemic, supervolcano, or asteroid impact. It's about not having all your eggs in one basket.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

By extension it would give more of an excuse for the top 1% to give even less of a fck about earth and the climate. Next thing you'd see is all the rich bailing to another planet while those who can't afford it are left with what's left of earth and the hellscape they left behind (and probably still have more agency over earth than those still living on there).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

That's quite cynical view. There's about 0% chance of that happening during their lifetime. Or you think they'll just want to go to mars and sit inside some capsule for the rest of their lives? C'moon now..

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 hours ago

The acid rain is going be be so slimming.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

The good news is that it will never get to that point. Venus is a different planet with a different makeup and history.

The bad news, it doesn't have to get nearly that bad to be bad for us and the rest of existing life. Not even close. Just a few degrees more, and we're doing really well in getting there.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I’ve heard of the runaway greenhouse gas effect. Is there a limit to that?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 hours ago

The limit is our distance from the Sun. After a certain point the greenhouse gasses can't make up for the fact that we just get less radiation than Venus does. The maximum potential I've seen is 10°C - almost all life would go extinct and we'd have to live on the tropical Antarctic archipelago, but not Venus.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 hours ago

Venusforming earth is a lot like terraforming mars, it's just hard to reach. If 200 years ago we were able to easily reach mars, we would have fucked up that too

[–] [email protected] 12 points 12 hours ago

But think of the shareholders!!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

Venus does have a lot of valuable materials, this could be a good thing.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago

I'd rather live somewhere habitable than somewhere with "valuable materials".

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 hours ago

I can’t wait to see the shareholder value.