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ironically the top thing on their sub right now is: "Accomplices Not Allies | Abolishing the Ally Industrial Complex; An Indigenous perspective & provocation" :michael-laugh:

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"I hope white anarchists/leftist never get so see their vision come true, because that vision is hell for us Black and Indigenous anarchists"

I really mean this, how black and Indigenous radicals are treated in these spaces shows me what the world white anarchists want to build looks like. We've seen examples already with CHAZ were two black teens were killed, and whites tried saying they were robbing or fascists or something, not owning up to what they did. No I see no revolutionary potential among white people, y'all can be mad if you want I won't explain any further. Y'all gotta take a deep look at yallselves and fucking change. 5 points (52% upvoted)

Where's the cOmMuNiTy MuTuAl AiD for the black teen they paralyzed? Say their name! :amber-snacking:

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Support intersectionality. Get your woke segregationist bullshit out of here.

lmao literally just /r/stupidpol idealists with the exact same thought-terminating cliches, but pro-intersectionality? There's a reason why these labor aristocrats on Breadtube/WSWS/etc never tweet the word "segregation" unless they're hating on black teens for being "woke", or soyfacing at Bernie getting arrested 60 years ago: They are radlibs who cannot reckon with the material conditions of the Actually Existing Segregationist apartheid that allows them to not have real jobs ("nooo that's evil Stalinism to force me to stop being a furry zine artist!!! My youtube channel/Trot newsletter is doing revolutionary praxis by scolding the blacks for not being patriotic settler vampires like me")

Yea, but building communities and boundaries based on race, seems to be a nazi sweet dream.

Your equation of white = oppressor is the same type of thought as a typical local nationalist's roma=robber, stealer, thief, lowlife. Turning the pyramid on its head its not ending opression. Forgetting and forging new ways of life is whats going to end opression. Lots of Nations and Nationalistic hate is build on "memory", don't reproduce the same mistakes.

Imagine whining about "memory"...what's the opposite of historical materialism? This willfull smoothbrain ideology is it

So my point here is that our identities, our histories, our heritage are experiences during opressive hierchies. If we believe of planet without borders, of people freely deciding their lives, we should first stop being slaves to our roots.

white people who can't say the word segregation unless they're mocking "woke segregationist" black teens (who they reflexively shoot to defend their white settler communities) think they're "slaves" to the memory of their nazism. It's vitally important for them to forget the past so they can do open borders undocumented slave apartheid without any friction to their utopian dreams :maybe-later-kiddo:

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago (3 children)

At the end of the day wasn't CHOP/CHAZ or whatever they called it a glorified block party in a rich, lily-white neighborhood? Like was it every anything more than that? I don't get why people still talk about it today like it was some anarchist success story.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

The neighborhood is the same one that elected Sawant and successfully fought the Amazon-backed recall. Yes it is rich and lily-white, but it is also right next to downtown so it's not like it's off in the suburbs or the edge of town or something. It's Seattle though, everywhere within city limits is rich.

Also, as far as I'm aware, the CHOP started as some people setting up tents in the park near the main protest area as a sort of "occupy" thing, and then someone made a half-serious half-joking meme about the "autonomous zone" in the form of a map that many people here saw. Twitter Chuds reacted to it, and then the Twitter left rallied behind it, hoping to see Paris '71 or something happen. Fox News picked it up and the rest is history (more people set up tents and stuff and eventually it was a block party).

It's a bit more than you're making it out to be, but it's about as much of an anarchist success story as OWS, even less so really.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

A rich neighborhood? Big if true.

Remind me what the CH in CHAZ stands for again (only libs call it CHOP)...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

clearly even leftists don't talk about it like it was a success story. on the materialist communist website hexbear.net the idea of armed militants occupying territory is derided as idealism.