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    [–] [email protected] 15 points 2 days ago

    Anybody who thinks running Windows is easier hasn't tried to get Tensorflow working on Windows with GPU support.

    In theory, it could run on a straight Windows build of Python, but nobody seems to have given that serious consideration. It must go through WSL, but that means passing through the GPU to WSL. When you Google how to do it, you'll find three different approaches that have been taken over the years, only one of which is valid on modern setups. If you take one of the old approaches, you will likely twist your system in knots and need a complete reinstall to fix.

    On Linux, you install the GPU drivers, compile Tensorflow with the GPU flags, and you're done.

    [–] [email protected] 54 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (3 children)

    the entire reason I switched to Linux -- back in January I asked myself "if I have to fight my operating system to make it work right for me anyways, why pay for the privilege?"

    like sure updates break things on Linux too occasionally but at least they don't reinstall spyware I had to spend a day ripping out after the last update.

    [–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

    Every. Single. Time. That Linux has broken on me it's been my fault. I've tried to go against an automated process to make what I wanted happen. Or I've removed an annoying apt update warning about some unused pub key. And I've totally shit bricked countless installs. Probably in the mid double digits.

    I've burnt through valuable pictures, documents and data. Wasted weekends reinstalling and reconfiguring Linux. BUT, I did that. Not Microsoft, no one held my hand and I certainly learned and never repeating most of those mistakes again.

    Most importantly, Linux let me do those things. Linux let me be a better end user and admin because I respected my environments more.

    If you switch to Linux you don't have to be an admin or go nuts....but Linux isn't going to stop you if you want to.

    [–] [email protected] 21 points 3 days ago (1 children)

    I'll have you know I've never paid for Windows in my life!

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

    Once for 7 Pro. Still running the same license all these years later.

    Also, I use Kubuntu, but I go with minimal install to avoid snap fuckery, btw.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

    why not kde neon.

    [–] [email protected] 14 points 3 days ago (1 children)

    Also, Windows is catching up on the breaking of things, while Linux has improved dramatically. At least some distros are incredibly stable.

    [–] [email protected] 12 points 3 days ago (1 children)

    Has a Linux update ever broken something on my computer? Yes. Have I ever needed to revert versions? Yes.

    Has a Linux update ever broken my computer so badly, that a hardware component on the motherboard had permanently stopped working, even after reinstalling firmware? No, but a windows update did once. I had to dual-boot Mint just so I could use WiFi.

    [–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

    So, wait, you are claiming that a Windows update broke your hardware so bad you had to reinstall the firmware, but it magically worked on a linux distro? First of all, that means it wasn't "permanently stopped [from] working". Second, I hate to break it to you, but it sounds like Windows might have fucked up a setting, and then you user-errored your way into breaking things. I've never had something break that can't be fixed with a full system restore or reinstall, and it sounds like you had a problem just like that. If it worked on Linux, you could have gotten it working on Windows, too, because it's clearly a software error at that point.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

    Don't know what to tell you. All I know is that WiFi worked before the update, and then didn't after. Updating the firmware didn't fix it. Reinstalling the OS didn't fix it. Taking it to the PC repair shop didn't fix it. Replacing the network card didn't fix it. But dual-booting Linux mint did fix it, on the mint partition, at least.

    [–] [email protected] 57 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (3 children)

    The best Windows tweak script is here

    [–] [email protected] 25 points 3 days ago (2 children)

    I think you mean here.

    [–] [email protected] 47 points 3 days ago (3 children)

    In my experience, it's here.

    [–] [email protected] 21 points 3 days ago

    Finally some real fucking food

    [–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

    Hear me out, it's here.

    [–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago (2 children)

    All of you are wrong.

    It's here.

    (Actually, no, scratch that. Not even I am insane enough to suggest that one in earnest.)

    [–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

    Oh please.

    Its here.

    [–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

    I'll just leave this here.

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

    No-no, you're right.

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

    That is generally what I use in my homelab. Though I've found that Fedora works a bit better for a general purpose daily workstation OS.

    [–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

    Well aKsHuLiY i used your method. Its just not beginner friendly.

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

    Did you even read the wiki? It's so easy! Totally beginner friendly provided a basic level of literacy.

    /s, hopefully obviously. Arch is a fragile house of cards.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

    Well, at least for normies who don't bother learn something new and/or think CLI is very scary

    [–] [email protected] 10 points 3 days ago

    ohyou dot jaypeg

    [–] [email protected] 41 points 3 days ago (1 children)

    This is so true. Most of the tools justifying the use of WSL aren't even supported. Either because of technical limitations or because of security concerns.

    [–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago (4 children)

    Why do people use wsl? The only reason I can think of is to take advantage of Bash and the shell environment. But if wsl runs in its own container separate from Windows, what's the point?

    [–] [email protected] 13 points 3 days ago

    When WSL first came out, all the documentation i read from Microsoft led me to believe it was intended to help developers who are cross-developing software for both Linux and Windows to more easily test features and compatibility and to ensure software behaves consistently. It never seemed like they intended it to be used to run Linux programs fully and integrate into the Windows environment. It always seemed like it was just there for convenience so a smaller budget developer could develop on one machine and not need to be constantly rebooting or running VMs.

    [–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

    Being a software developer but your work laptop is a Windows machine?

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

    Msys2 can be used for that btw

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

    Maybe I'm not aware of similar configurations you can do, but it's only sorta it's own container. VSCode can actually directly connect to it automatically so you can develop in host os but run directly against the container. Additionally this means some visualization/gui interfaces can be visible on the host side (this is a gift and a curse).

    So you basically have system integrated containers/vms. It's not perfect, but it is definitely leagues better than what windows development was prior and may have some advantages over Linux only deployments (not sure if the system integrations are feasible in Linux hosts).

    [–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago

    Linux using wine and bottles:👁👄👁

    [–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago

    Should use Linux Subsystem for Windows instead.

    [–] [email protected] 20 points 3 days ago (2 children)

    Wine would like a word

    [–] [email protected] 55 points 3 days ago (3 children)

    Aka "Windows subsystem for Linux"

    [–] [email protected] 12 points 3 days ago

    Uno reverse be like

    [–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

    Glad to know I'm not the only one peeved by the fact the name is unequivocally wrong

    [–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

    Its a dumb name, but its far from being unequivocally wrong. It's a windows subsystem, which is used for linux.

    [–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago

    Windows submissive for Linux

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

    I was just thinking this. If you're dev, being on pure Linux makes a ton of sense. But if you're a gamer, Windows is still your best option.

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

    mingw64 and cygwin