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[–] 241 points 2 years ago (3 children)

We're seeing a substantial increase on the Mastodon instance I help moderate too, but there's no aggregate marketing department at Mastodon so we don't get any headlines.

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    [–] 100 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (5 children)

    Going from one shitty capitalist business to another shitty capitalist business.

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  • [–] 72 points 2 years ago (15 children)

    I think this is the crowd that tried Mastodon and then abandoned it when they realized it required a modicum of effort.

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  • [–] 24 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

    wtf kind of lame criticism of mastodon is this...there are constantly cute pictures of pets being posted on mastodon... and like anywhere else with humans these posts are very popular on mastodon.

    I would say these posts are MORE popular on mastodon because without an algorithm cute animal photos are going to stick out as popular even more.

    This is all nonsense anyways, Bluesky is considered "cooler" by techy types with a childlike awareness of history, politics and power because the tech is cooler when considered in the abstract.

    Coincidently none of these technical details have the capacity to make bluesky a truly open and free place otherwise those investors would sue bluesky for purposefully and willfully not pursuing profit for shareholders. This won't stop certain types from pointing at pictures in the sand and reciting idle words thrown to the wind by the people in charge for now.

    Bluesky exists as a legal instrument of profit, all else about bluesky is malleable and changeable and will eventually be bulldozed or undermined in the pursuit of profit for shareholders.

    edit 2 this is a real human, and I was grumpy and while it was satisfying to point fingers it just makes me into the asshole so I removed that, but my broader point still stands

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    [–] 69 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Everything is better than Twitter I guess.

    Is this running on a modified version of Mastodon?

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  • [–] 95 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    BlueSky is its own thing with its own federated protocol called ATproto. They have an explanation in their docs on how it works, different features. There's a bridge between the two as well, a bit janky but effective.

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  • [–] 99 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    It's a federated protocol, but the network itself isn't meaningfully federated, and is basically just Bluesky (the company) infrastructure. Hopefully that changes, because until then, it's still a centralised social media platform, despite the underlying technology

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  • [–] 36 points 2 years ago (10 children)

    And I still to this day don't get the appeal of the twitter model

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  • [–] 19 points 2 years ago

    Yes, I much prefer following topics over people. Every time I glance at microblogging, there is just so much noise. At least lemmy-style forums have upvotes to surface quality content rather than the jumbled mess that microblogs are. No matter how much I like someone (even IRL friends/family), I won't be interested in their every passing thought, it's just exhausting.

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  • [–] 29 points 2 years ago* (9 children)

    No, and it doesnt federate even though they promised that a long time ago. Unless they do, they will inevitably also go to shit, there is no way around the enshittification pipeline. Just stick to mastodon and invest in a long term future.

    For a slightly more detailed explanation: https://pluralistic.net/2024/11/02/ulysses-pact/#tie-yourself-to-a-federated-mast

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  • [–] 62 points 2 years ago (16 children)

    I honestly don't understand why people waited so I don't use mastodon but I did cancel my Twitter account literally the first week he bought it. It wasn't hard to see this coming and I just don't get the delay.

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    [–] 58 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    FWIW there's a way to bridge Bluesky accounts to Mastodon

    https://fed.brid.gy/

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  • [–] 25 points 2 years ago (13 children)

    Why don't people want to use mastodon?

    Are they following rasputin again?

    Does Mastodon refuse to deal with its issues, like Lemmy?

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  • [–] 47 points 2 years ago (13 children)

    Anecdotally, I joined Mastodon, found it difficult to find people who I personally know that were on different instances, kind of lost interest and thought kbin might be a better solution for both forums and microblogs all in one place, then my Mastodon instance shut down, and then kbin died too. Hence me being on lemmy.world, as default and stable of a server as there is here.

    Bluesky felt fun and familiar right off the bat, my only issue was that it was still so small when I joined. Now that there's an influx of new users, many of whom I followed on the bird site, it just feels like Twitter 2, which I suspect is what most people want.

    FWIW I have a highly technical job and consider myself pretty tech literate, so I don't think any of the issues I had with Mastodon weren't things I could've figured out or worked around, I just didn't feel incentivized to bother. I suspect they've smoothed out a lot of the federating issues I saw before, but at this point I'm happy enough on Bluesky to stay put.

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  • [–] 51 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    Bluesky is not as decentralized as you think.. Just saying.

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  • [–] 24 points 2 years ago (7 children)

    That is actually an advantage. Centralized platforms are able to achieve larger audiences, increasing the chance that I will be able to find content I actually care about.

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    [–] 38 points 2 years ago (9 children)

    What aren't they joining Mastodon and Lemmy? Or even Threads?

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    [–] 36 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Soon Twitter will complete its transition to Nazi Bar of Social Media.

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  • [–] 35 points 2 years ago

    Impressive, since "network effects" are what keeps people on a platform. Why move off Xitter or FB when everyone's on there, and not on the new place? Keep moving a significant fraction of a million people every week, and pretty soon, it'll be where everyone is.

    My partner, who is very non-technical, signed up for a BlueSky as well this week: "all the teacher blogs have declared that they are moving over". Looks like everyone has had enough.

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  • [–] 35 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Bluesky is popping off lately it feels even more lively and the block tools are great.

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  • [–] 30 points 2 years ago* (7 children)

    Sigh, here we go again. I jumped on board because it’s where my friends are. Was pleasantly surprised that most of my old twitter follows are already there. Still, given the history I’m being careful and ready for the next enshittification exodus.

    I wish folks would just embrace self hosting and decentralization but we obviously love to make the same mistakes again, and again, and again…

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    [–] 23 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    I made an account yesterday to see how it is, however, I never used Twitter and so I don’t really understand how BlueSky works (since it suppose to be the same as Twitter?).

    I followed 8 people and a couple of “#” but I barely see a thing of the people, I follow.

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    [–] 22 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    I've seen the effect. It's just like after Brazil cut Twitter off. My very niche account has been gaining new followers by the hour.

    I have no idea how people interested in Heathcliff are being found by new people. Much less people interested in Heathcliff without Heathcliff.

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    [–] 21 points 2 years ago (13 children)

    as a Bluesky / Mastodon user, Mastodon is wayyyy better.

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    People doing anything to not use mastodon...

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    [–] 20 points 2 years ago (7 children)

    eh it is good to leave that shit hole behind but Elon already got very high returns from his investment on Shitter (got his daddy elected) so it's too late.

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