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[–] 185 points 2 years ago (28 children)

I'm still worried about how he's even going to accomplish that, seeing as he's also planning to deport the cheapest sources of agricultural labor.

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  • [–] 222 points 2 years ago (11 children)

    Simple. Prices will go up, Trump will hold a press conference announcing prices are lower, and 50% of the country will believe prices are lower instead of the lying mainstream media.

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  • [–] 52 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    You mean the lies of their eyes. I believe Orwell had something to say on the subject.

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  • [–] 20 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    More likely he’ll use tax money to subsidize red state groceries so their eyes won’t lie to them as much.

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  • [–] 19 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    You forgot the part where he blames the democrats

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  • [–] 25 points 2 years ago

    This the the answer. The two major tenets of his platform are "raise tarrifs" (inflationary!) and "deport immigrants" (raising costs on production). Shit is going to get more expensive, but it won't matter if facts continue not to matter and you have a boogieman to shake your stick at.

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  • [–] 30 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    That's easy! Repeal child labor laws and massively increase prison populations for slave labor!

    ...they did say private prisons were among the groups very happy to see a Trump victory. Wonder why...

    I will make sure to suicide by cop before I end up a literal corporate slave, I will force the guards to kill me.

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  • [–] 27 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    And what happens if he closes the border with Mexico? Is he going to disrupt trade with them too? Here in Texas an overwhelming majority of our produce is Mexican-grown

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  • [–] 10 points 2 years ago

    It doesn't matter because republican voters don't actually care about the price of eggs. They only pretend to if they think it will help them win. It's actually amazing more people don't understand this considering it has been a pattern in US elections for like 40 years now.

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    [–] 151 points 2 years ago (25 children)

    I hate that republicans like saying that republicans are better for the economy when they're not

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._economic_performance_by_presidential_party

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  • [–] 71 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    Well, to be fair, that graph only looks like that because the Dems always seem to inherit a dogshit economy that's been destroyed by conservative policies, then the Republicans inherit a strong economy before destroying it.

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  • [–] 44 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Yup, unfortunately people don't understand that policies only change the equilibrium, but sometimes take longer than electoral cycles to see effect.

    That's why no party really gives a shit about bringing down the national debt, because twofold:

    • people hate you in your term because that's less money being spent for their benefit now
    • the opposition can have more spending room to provide more benefits in their term, making them more popular.
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  • [–] 10 points 2 years ago*

    That's actually true worldwide. Wanna see how an economy looks like after over 30 years of almost uninterrupted conservative leadership? Look at where Germany stands now. Crumbling infrastructure, worst Internet in Europe, industry unable and/or unwilling to open itself to modern technology (best example being the German car industry).

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    [–] 129 points 2 years ago (9 children)

    prices went up under Trump, Trump told people the prices went down, and dumb people believe him.

    Biden told corporations to lower their prices, the corporations lowered their prices, Trump said prices went up, dumb people believed him.

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    [–] 61 points 2 years ago (7 children)

    The best part is that Trump will not bring down the price of groceries.

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    [+] 55 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)
  • [–] 47 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    You know, except there's no motivation for retailers to lower prices no matter how cheap the the products become nor how low their taxes are.

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  • [–] 33 points 2 years ago (9 children)

    he won't though. so enjoy your rights being taken away and rising cost of groceries.

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    [–] 30 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    Canadian commentary:

    I know it’s difficult with corporate greed and price gouging right now, I’m not debating that.

    I’m worried that the food that people gravitate toward is unhealthy, ultra processed and cheaper on purpose. You need to buy MORE of this kind of food to stay full.

    The US has, in my understanding, a lot of food deserts where healthier options are not available and people are pushed to eat empty calories.

    The late-stage capitalist system wears people so thin that the effort to find and cook cheap healthy meals can be overwhelming if you don’t usually do this.

    Portions in North America are HUGE.

    There are ways to eat for cheaper but I understand that takes effort. For example, I order a $23 CDN all in produce box to my door of oddly shaped/sized produce that feeds two adults for a week. The largest box at $49 easily feeds a family of 4. It takes effort to find and locate services like this. Only available in big cities too.

    I guess what I’m trying to say is it seems like the structure of society and capitalism makes the impact of corporate greed RE: groceries SO much worse.

    Not to mention the wars, gas, and housing prices.

    I know a lot of people are low information but since this issue in my perspective is aggravated and accelerated by so many factors, it still baffles me that people accept the solution is more Republican trickle down economics and tariffs which seem like they’re just going to make the problem worse for everyone.

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    [–] 30 points 2 years ago (10 children)

    Lol, groceries are about to go up. Trump wants to continue a pointless tariff war with China. It's not going to work.

    The CPC is more than willing to plunge their own citizens into poverty to outlast the US. Americans complain over a 20 cent increase in gas. How do you think they'll react when most of their goods suddenly increase by 30% or more?

    Chinese labor made the American middle class.

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  • [–] 12 points 2 years ago

    I think it's funny how Tankies pretend China is a paradise. China will absolutely starve every man, woman, and child over the pettiest of shit, there's no telling what they'd do to win a tariff war.

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  • [–] 10 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    It killed the US middle class, or better, was one of the bigger factors in doing so. The American middle class was strongest post war until the late 70s. That was when our economic policies shifted to off-shoring as much labor as possible, and when the Chinese special economic zone polices were started, in cooperation with the US. The loss of manufacturing jobs in the following decades gutted the US middle class.

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  • [–] 11 points 2 years ago*

    Yeah, how can people not see this? The "American Dream" and times of middle class prosperity were very obviously before China opened its economy and became the new industrial hub of the world. And when off-shoring started, so did real wage stagnation/decline.

    Selling the declining American middle class plastic toys did not "make" that class. What made it were stable well paying manufacturing jobs. Trump won't bring those back with a trade war with China, but the claim that Chinese labor "made" the American middle class is just delusional.

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    [–] 25 points 2 years ago

    Except he won't, of course.

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    [–] 14 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    There's a little detail in the show that I always liked. They didn't shove it in your face and I appreciate the subtlety.

    The detail is that there were actually very few groceries in the grocery store. If you look closely, the produce is always very low quality, and there just wasn't that much to choose from. It was a big deal when they got those navel oranges. Not much meats either, and they mostly got canned goods and such. It highlights how shitty their society is without going too overboard. "You might not have noticed, but your brain did."

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    [–] 11 points 2 years ago

    blessed be the groceries

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  • [–] 10 points 2 years ago (2 children)
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