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[–] 238 points 2 years ago* (30 children)

It will at least be extremely funny to watch all the right wing gamer bro chuds freak the fuck out when an immediate consequence of their actions will be that gaming pc components instantly inflate 50% in price.

Glad I already got my Steam Deck, fuck.

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  • [–] 149 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    Bold of you to assune they won't just blame Dems because it isn't like reality matters.

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  • [–] 41 points 2 years ago (11 children)

    but but... Orange men said it was good for the economy, now I have to pay 2000 Dollars for a 5090? Why aren't they coming to America and produce here!?

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    [–] 88 points 2 years ago (8 children)

    For years, us, Canadians went to USA for shopping. Next year with the exchange rate at the highest for US$, and Canada without tariff, a shit load of americans will come to Canada to buy their electronics and stuff.

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  • [–] 36 points 2 years ago (7 children)

    They'll still have to pay the tariff when crossing the border back to the USA, unless they want to risk smuggling it.

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  • [+] 75 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)
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    [–] 66 points 2 years ago* (6 children)

    The US is at least 40 years removed from any kind of real electronics manufacturing at scale.

    This kind of thing takes generational knowledge to get right and we outsourced that knowledge a long time ago.

    We are now several generations from being able to manufacture electronics on the level.

    Either trump has no idea how anything works or he's actively trying to destroy the American economy.

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    [–] 41 points 2 years ago (13 children)

    Can someone please explain to me why he STILL doesn't have any understanding of how tarrifs work?

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  • [–] 22 points 2 years ago

    A candidate that expressed nuanced understanding of economic principles would have been less likely to win the election.

    A candidate that instead promises answers that intuitively sound right. If imports are expensive, then obviously the big business owners will build domestic and give us more money. If you get rid of immigrants, then the business owners will have to pay more for citizen workers. Simple answers that are easier for people to believe in.

    Attempts to explain nuance? That ranges from nerds overcomplicating things and/or those darned liberal elites trying to truck them.

    This cuts both ways. In 2020 Biden won not due to a more sophisticated understanding of things, but simply because things were bad, and the other guy therefore was the obvious choice. So to overcome an incumbent, you just have to have people believe stuff is bad, and provide some believable explanation that you could fix it.

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    [–] 41 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Mexico about to make a killing in shipping.

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  • [–] 41 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Any reason for the unnecessary outlining and underlining instead of just cropping the picture decently? Ffs

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    [–] 37 points 2 years ago (34 children)

    Brought this up to a friend who is very pro Trump and he said

    "Part of trying to get industry back in the country (which we would be better off with) involves making imports less appealing."

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  • [–] 44 points 2 years ago (21 children)

    These people have no concept of geo politics and global trade. For example, we produce a lot of the world's soy, that's a major export, not many other countries do it on a large scale like that - so we cut the other countries some slack and tell them we won't produce this particular good so you can have a hand in the global economy. Yes having the production here would be ideal as I'm all for it, but the world is so much more than Murica and they can't see past their fucking noses.

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  • [–] 22 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    Yes it does.

    Do you know why we outsourced everything to China? Because they can do it cheaper.

    You can get it back, have it higher quality, more jobs, better control over it, all that good stuff. But it won't be cheaper.

    The US sells things they can make comparatively cheaper (not just price, its an opportunity cost) - better educated population, logistic, access to raw material, infrastructure investments. China sells things they can do cheaper - usually the fact that life is cheap in China.

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    [–] 34 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (9 children)

    Everyone needs a lesson in how tarrifs work. Tarrifs are a tax on thing that US companies buy. They are intended to make foreign products more expensive to protect domestic producers. So, the American company pays the tariff. They then pass that tariff on to their customer, either another company or an American consumer. Then, the country that the tariff had been applied to applies offsetting tarrifs on American goods.

    When the product that the tariff is applied to can't be produced in the US, think advanced microchips or Canadian softwood lumber, Americans pay more but still have to buy the foreign product. With the softwood lumber tarrifs the cost of building a home with Canadian softwood lumber went up by tens of thousands of dollars and Canadian companies laughed all the way to the bank. American consumers paid more and Canadian companies made record profits because the US can't produce enough softwood lumber to meet its needs.

    So, the price to American companies and consumers goes up and the cost of American goods overseas goes up. Americans pay the tarrifs and American companies sell less goods overseas.

    America loses.

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    [–] 31 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Where so you think American farmers buy their fertilizer? Where they sell most of their soy and corn sell to? Maaaaany companies are either buying or selling to/from China. Many will go bankrupt, bany will struggle.

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    [–] 30 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    I hope Trump turns out to be the best president in history. Prove me wrong, conservatives. I want to hear how it's going by the fourth year.

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    [–] 30 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    Good. I hope he does it. Don't let any of his yes-men or cronies tell him what a horrible idea it is. Let the whole fucking country burn.

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    [–] 29 points 2 years ago (10 children)

    That’s all cool and nice, but let’s see what happens to the prices when Taiwan gets invaded.

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    [–] 28 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    Fuck.

    It hasn't even started yet and I know that I have 4 more years of this stupidity news ever single day

    Oh wait

    Since Trump will install himself as a dictator, then die, we have a few decades of couche fucker Vance to look forward to, yeeeiii

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    [+] 28 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (9 children)
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    [–] 27 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I'm involved in the manufacturing sector. At recent trade shows, we've been hearing that a lot of companies were holding off on making decisions about purchasing goods and machinery until after the election, though no one was saying much specifically about what each candidate would mean for their decisions. This article seems to say the outlook isn't super rosy and his initiatives don't make a ton of sense.

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  • [–] 22 points 2 years ago

    I’m in manufacturing within China. While I’m not American and don’t work with American companies. Lots of our supply chain has said there is high levels of uncertainty in projects. Projects have been on hold for months.

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  • [–] 26 points 2 years ago

    Seeing a stark void of "Fuck China" posts all of a sudden. Crazy what happens when the treat train gets held up at the border.

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  • [–] 23 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    No you don’t understand, Mexico is going to pay for, sorry I mean, China is going to pay the tariffs.

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    [–] 22 points 2 years ago (8 children)

    Fuuuuuuuck me I wanted a new PC & a new laptop. How much time do I have before this hits?!

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    [–] 20 points 2 years ago (6 children)

    Used electronics go brrrrrr

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    [–] 20 points 2 years ago (8 children)

    I hate this because for Europe it will become expensive too, just for the heck of it.

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