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[–] 135 points 3 years ago (4 children)

I’ll tell you a secret you might have missed.

It’s not about the privacy.

It’s about a foreign country of similar power levels having the ability to shape your people’s political opinions.

They’re shitting themselves because it’s one of the first times it’s happened to them instead of them doing it to someone else.

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    [–] 34 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (12 children)

    The key difference is that American Government agencies don't have access to the information TikTok steals from its users.

    Edit: This comment implied the US has easy access to the data from companies like Facebook.

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  • [–] 8 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (3 children)

    At least in theory they have to get a warrant, although there are plenty of examples of tech companies handing over information without one. They definitely have access to all the same information if they really want it though.

    Edit: In hindsight I think I may have misinterpreted how that post was intended. American government agencies do have a harder time getting access to TikTok's information, although at least for US users TikTok has separate servers that make it possible for them to do so.

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  • [–] 17 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    They have to get a warrant to demand it, yes. But if they show up with a bag full of money, the companies will just turn it right over.

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    [–] 24 points 3 years ago (3 children)

    America is guilty of everything Americans accuse China about.

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    [–] 14 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Has everyone forgotten when Zuck was brought before congress and grilled about Facebook? True, the reps merely embarrassed themselves through their own ignorance, but being ineffectual is not the same as hypocracy.

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    [–] 11 points 3 years ago (9 children)

    Can't we just say that both are bad?

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  • [–] [S] 32 points 3 years ago (3 children)

    We should be saying both are bad. We need much stronger, EU like privacy laws.

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  • [–] 6 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    And how would privacy laws be applied to TikTok, which is outside the jurisdiction of these laws?

    The only way to get TikTok to have any privacy policies at all is by threatening to block them.

    Which is what's happening.

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    [–] 10 points 3 years ago

    I remember articles in the early 00s about how China wouldn't allow Google to operate there and a big deal was made about "the great firewall of China" and how it was all about censorship, but now that China has an influential internet service, US congress is demanding they hand over ownership of US operations to a US company.

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  • [–] 10 points 3 years ago

    It's like picking on a younger sibling.

    It's okay when you, the older sibling, do it. But when a stranger does it, you kick their ass.

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  • [–] 8 points 3 years ago

    So many people here who don't understand why people are able to criticize more than one country be like:

    A: "Tell me the difference between these pictures:" || xor

    B: "They are the same"

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  • [–] 8 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    Xenophobia (from Ancient Greek ξένος (xénos) 'strange, foreign, alien', and φόβος (phóbos) 'fear') is the fear or dislike of anything which is perceived as being foreign or strange.

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    [–] 8 points 3 years ago

    Hypocrisy at its finest.

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  • [–] 6 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    Now do American politicians when an elementary school is attacked by a gunman.

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  • [–] 6 points 3 years ago

    @Veedems If our freedom we wanna keep. Facebook, Microsoft, BP, Nestlé, and Google we have to kill.

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  • [–] 6 points 3 years ago (12 children)

    its almost like foreign governments collecting information about your population is a bad thing for your people and your government, or something.

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