▲ 1735 ▼ It’s all posturing (i.imgur.com) submitted 3 years ago by Veedems@lemmy.ml to c/memes@lemmy.ml 203 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] vegantomato@lemmy.world 11 points 3 years ago (9 children) Can't we just say that both are bad? permalink fedilink source hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] Veedems@lemmy.ml [S] 32 points 3 years ago (3 children) We should be saying both are bad. We need much stronger, EU like privacy laws. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 years ago (1 child) And how would privacy laws be applied to TikTok, which is outside the jurisdiction of these laws? The only way to get TikTok to have any privacy policies at all is by threatening to block them. Which is what's happening. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] lps2@lemmy.ml 13 points 3 years ago TikTok isn't outside of that jurisdiction, they are operating in places like the US. If they violate privacy laws, you remove them from accessing that market permalink fedilink source parent [–] absentthereaper@lemmygrad.ml 1 point 3 years ago No one who has ever said "neither Washington nor Beijing" has ever meant it; and marks you as just another Beltway settler afaic. permalink fedilink source parent [–] TowardsTheFuture@vlemmy.net 5 points 3 years ago I think that is generally the point? Often Americans point to china as big bad for shit America is actively doing as well, while pretending America is so great. They both fucking suck. They both want to be the major super power and to do so they both do horrible shit to their own people, people in other countries, entire other countries, both extremely capitalistic, etc. permalink fedilink source parent [–] pressanykeynow@iusearchlinux.fyi 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) Not on the mass media. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] vegantomato@lemmy.world 11 points 3 years ago Mass media are at their core propaganda tools. Their mission is to further the agendas of whoever finances them, they are not driven by the pursuit of truth, justice or anything related such as the defense of privacy. permalink fedilink source parent [–] FIST_FILLET@lemmy.ml 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) politicians are actively talking about banning tiktok. let me know when they do the same for twitter, instagram, reddit, facebook, tinder, youtube, google, amazon, and every other US site that does the exact same snooping that tiktok does. THEN we can say “both are bad”. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] vegantomato@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago I think you've got it backwards. If we can't acknowledge that both are bad before talking about banning them, then what justification do we have for banning them? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Veedems@lemmy.ml [S] 32 points 3 years ago (3 children) We should be saying both are bad. We need much stronger, EU like privacy laws. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 years ago (1 child) And how would privacy laws be applied to TikTok, which is outside the jurisdiction of these laws? The only way to get TikTok to have any privacy policies at all is by threatening to block them. Which is what's happening. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] lps2@lemmy.ml 13 points 3 years ago TikTok isn't outside of that jurisdiction, they are operating in places like the US. If they violate privacy laws, you remove them from accessing that market permalink fedilink source parent [–] absentthereaper@lemmygrad.ml 1 point 3 years ago No one who has ever said "neither Washington nor Beijing" has ever meant it; and marks you as just another Beltway settler afaic. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 years ago (1 child) And how would privacy laws be applied to TikTok, which is outside the jurisdiction of these laws? The only way to get TikTok to have any privacy policies at all is by threatening to block them. Which is what's happening. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] lps2@lemmy.ml 13 points 3 years ago TikTok isn't outside of that jurisdiction, they are operating in places like the US. If they violate privacy laws, you remove them from accessing that market permalink fedilink source parent
[–] lps2@lemmy.ml 13 points 3 years ago TikTok isn't outside of that jurisdiction, they are operating in places like the US. If they violate privacy laws, you remove them from accessing that market permalink fedilink source parent
[–] absentthereaper@lemmygrad.ml 1 point 3 years ago No one who has ever said "neither Washington nor Beijing" has ever meant it; and marks you as just another Beltway settler afaic. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TowardsTheFuture@vlemmy.net 5 points 3 years ago I think that is generally the point? Often Americans point to china as big bad for shit America is actively doing as well, while pretending America is so great. They both fucking suck. They both want to be the major super power and to do so they both do horrible shit to their own people, people in other countries, entire other countries, both extremely capitalistic, etc. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] pressanykeynow@iusearchlinux.fyi 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) Not on the mass media. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] vegantomato@lemmy.world 11 points 3 years ago Mass media are at their core propaganda tools. Their mission is to further the agendas of whoever finances them, they are not driven by the pursuit of truth, justice or anything related such as the defense of privacy. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] vegantomato@lemmy.world 11 points 3 years ago Mass media are at their core propaganda tools. Their mission is to further the agendas of whoever finances them, they are not driven by the pursuit of truth, justice or anything related such as the defense of privacy. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FIST_FILLET@lemmy.ml 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) politicians are actively talking about banning tiktok. let me know when they do the same for twitter, instagram, reddit, facebook, tinder, youtube, google, amazon, and every other US site that does the exact same snooping that tiktok does. THEN we can say “both are bad”. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] vegantomato@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago I think you've got it backwards. If we can't acknowledge that both are bad before talking about banning them, then what justification do we have for banning them? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] vegantomato@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago I think you've got it backwards. If we can't acknowledge that both are bad before talking about banning them, then what justification do we have for banning them? permalink fedilink source parent