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  • Swedish Minister wants to deport migrants who do not hold Swedish citizenship if they show support to terrorist groups.
  • The spokesperson for migration policy in Sweden wants the law to be even more stringent - to include anyone who shows such acts of support.
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[–] [email protected] 4 points 17 hours ago

Yes, anyone who supports Israel should be deported to The Hague.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Good, immigrants who support terrorism don’t belong in Sweden or any other Western country.

Send them back and let them live with the organization they support.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Yeah, this suuuurely won't be used to silence pro-Palestine protestors.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Because what we've found is governments are so good at determining who is right in a particular conflict.

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[–] [email protected] -2 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I was about to say you are braindead, but it seems you are just American, I am really sorry.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 8 hours ago

Racism and sycophantic nationalism seems to be alive and well elsewhere in the world…

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (4 children)

The issue here is citizens are still allowed to support terrorist organisations since it's part of free opininon and free speech. So it's a discriminatory law, which is against the principle of rule of law and equality before the law.

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[–] [email protected] 98 points 2 days ago (2 children)

...and let me guess. Critizing Israel's actions is tacit support of Hezbollah?

[–] [email protected] 60 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Sweden up until recently had freedom of organization protected in the constitution. This was changed in a recent constitutional amendment at the request of Turkey, as a prerequisite to join NATO. Turkey demanded that Sweden arrest "PKK members" (aka journalists that Erdogan doesn't like), and to show support, both the Andersson and Kristersson administrations revived a constitutional amendment from 2021 and pushed it through, making it illegal to be a member of a terrorist organization.

https://www.regeringen.se/rattsliga-dokument/statens-offentliga-utredningar/2021/03/sou-202115/

https://www.nato.int/nato_static_fl2014/assets/pdf/2022/6/pdf/220628-trilat-memo.pdf

https://lagen.nu/2022:666

It's really an unfortunate development, since the terms "terrorist organization" and "support to terrorism" is so poorly defined, and it's clearly intended to punish political opposition in dictatorships, like Turkish and Kurdish opposition in Turkey. Very much a chilling effect on political discussion when foreign political oppositions are banned from speaking in Sweden, even when racist hate groups are still allowed to speak.

It does seem that the current law is still quite limited, at least. The Terrorist crime law of 2022 (Terroristbrottslagen) outlaws support, propagandizing, and recruiting for terrorist organizations, but this seems to be limited to only material support, organized propaganda and organization leadership. Simply going around waving a PKK flag still is legal, for now.

https://www.ui.se/utrikesmagasinet/analyser/2023/juli/terrorlagar-domstolar-far-bedoma-flaggviftning/

So luckily, I don't think it's possible to be deported simply for expressing expressing pro-Kurdish or pro-Palestinian independence ideas, or even expressing support for the violent people in PKK or Hamas.

Johan Forssell has also expressed a wish for a new law making it illegal to be in a criminal gang, but this has not passed yet. His view on the ongoing wars with Israel seems to be that Israel "has a right to defend itself", but that civilians must be protected and receive aid.

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