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Conservatives like Charlie Kirk and Jesse Watters criticize these efforts, claiming they undermine family values.
So Kirk and Watters (among others, I'm sure) believe that individual voters casting their votes independently based on their own judgment "undermines family values." Got it.
I agree. The husbands voting for Trump independently really undermines family values.
It brings up the most damning dichotomy. That women would feel the need to hide their vote for Harris, but men don't feel like they need to hide their vote for Trump. I wonder why that might be.
The irony here is Jesse Waters cheated on his ex wife. So, who's actually undermining family values here? And it ain't the women.
He is the one that said woman voting independently is "as bad as an affair" as well.
Dude reveling in his shitbaggerity and just winking at the camera. He certainly knows his audience.
I wish these "men" would take some time off to get help with their issues instead of inflicting them on everybody else.
They are habitual liars. Nothing they say is in good faith. Charlie is a terrorist who helped finance an attack on the capitol, the article should bring that up if they want to cite him as a reference for anything political.
STOP. FUCKING. REPUBLICANS.
Look, I know women in these situations often have no easy way to get out from the financial situation they're in, or will be alone and unsafe with a vengeful partner. I feel terribly for anyone in that situation, and if I knew anyone like that personally I would offer to help them.
But don't fuck them in the first place.
I mean, personally, I'm a financially safe option.
But then you'd have to meet me, and to meet me I would need time and energy to get out of the house, and it becomes this whole thing and I'd just rather not
You want to know why Republicans did a hard course change on mail in voting for 2024?
THIS is why. The husband can ensure the wife fills out her ballot “correctly” in the comfort of their own home, instead of the wife filling it out as she sees fit at the polling station.
Oops i spoiled the ballot. Too late to get another one, guess I'll vote in person.
“Oh, I’m sorry honey! I’ve got plans to be out with the boys guarding the polling station on election day; you’ll have to stay home and take care of the children. Maybe you can vote next time….”
Here in Sweden, you can change your vote even if it is mailed in.
If you vote in person on election day, your earlier vote won't be counted
You can do that in the US*. My ex had to do it when her dad stole her ballot in 2016 and voted for Trump.
We got the last laugh, though. He was a massive anti masker and then died of COVID. Wasn't really that funny though...just sad all around.
*Edit to add - some places in the US
US election rules are extremely regional, this isn’t true everywhere.
Voter suppression is a real disease like gerrymandering.
If my partner were voting fascist they wouldn't be my partner.
If my partner were voting fascist they would be my partner.
Well they wouldn't be mine!
That's what I meant to say. I'm so tired.
Hydrate. Recreate. Hibernate.
I had chemo for Hodgins this afternoon. Napping with the cats and drinking lots of water.
Oh god that's awful. Yeah you get to miss an n't or two. Be well!
claiming they undermine family values.
Oh really? And exactly which values are those? Perhaps that women should obey their husbands commands and be glorified slaves? They can't very well say that quite part out loud yet now can they. That would actually cost them some votes they really can't afford.
Not even slaves - combination incubators/dishwashers/laundry machines.
You're sugarcoating religious extremism; just describing an average 1950's housewife...
What they want is Gilead. The sharia law of the Taliban, but Christian!
I call them Talibangelicals, or Y'all Qaeda
My parents have been voting opposite since they met and very rarely had issues. They just don't talk about politics and they've made it work for 40 years. How about be a fucking man stop trying to control your partner. Women had to fight for their right to vote so as far as I'm concerned they can do whatever the fuck they want.
Maybe it's a generational divide or something, but I would lose my fucking mind if my partner for life were braindead enough to support trump. Maybe Clinton v Dole was just a more reasonable thing to disagree with your spouse about (idk, I wasn't there, and I don't care enough to look into it, don't @ me), but a disagreement in 2024 fundamentally is about democracy v fascism, helping people v hurting people, and decency v shameless petulance. A politically split household in 2024 is not a team or a partnership in any meaningful way. Just fucking get a divorce already because you've clearly married the wrong person! There's absolutely no fucking way I could cohabitate with, let alone share a bed with somebody who wants women, children, immigrants, minorities, LGBTQ+ people, and poor people to be punished in every aspect of life for not being financially comfortable, straight, white, cis men. Truly incomprehensible. "But taxes! But gas prices!" No. Just no. You're clearly not actually paying attention if you think that literally anything would be better for you under trump. There would be short term gains at the expense of long term collapse, just like what happened when you gave him the keys last time.
And I don't mean you specifically. Just the rhetorical "you" for anybody it would apply to.
I definitely agree with you there. But my parents are also in their seventies and are set in their ways. My little sister came out as trans and I can obviously tell my dad hates it. My mom doesn't understand it at all so she just avoids the conversation, but she is supportive.
But I also 100% believe that the majority of people voting for Trump don't understand the threat of fascism. The thing about fascism and being in a cult like MAGA is that you don't realize anything is wrong with what you're doing from the inside. They think what they are doing is the right thing to do. Just look up anyone that has escaped from a cult and they will say the same thing. People don't want what they believe to be put into question and will fight tooth and nail to protect it. It's how propaganda works. Like, if someone they trust tells them that Latinos are coming into this country and doing awful things they'd be more inclined to believe them over the stranger they've never met telling them they're stupid for what they believe in.
It's one thing to have different opinions and another to have a partner that believes a convicted rapist with an unimaginable amount of blood on his hands should lead the fucking army to start mass murdering civilians he doesn't like. The guy is cartoon levels of evil, it's fucking ridiculous.
Yeah I have to agree.
I'm not in the US, the leader of our conservative party (not presently in power) is a douche but not like Trump.
In the present climate I doubt my partner would vote conservative, but if she did I could live with it.
If she voted for someone as messed up as Trump I would genuinely struggle with that. I feel like it would be indicative of deeper problems.
Thing is people of opposing politics can work together. Trump isn't politics, it's fascism. If we really wanted to see political opposites working together, Republicans could put country first and get rid of Trump with us, once that threat is gone we can go back to being adults with differences
They should Cancel out their relationship as well. If your partner is willing to vote away your rights gleefully and you stay with them?! (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻)
A lot of people stay in abusive relationships for a long time.
Shit, there's a party that's trying to to make our whole country more of a giant abusive relationship.
White women are #2 in the hierarchy of structural racism, and they know it, deep down. Whether they admit to it is a whole other scenario.
it's sad that woman have to hide this from their partners. Everyone should be able to vote how they wish without fear of retaliation.
I wonder if there’s a trump suppoerter out there somewhere who is deathly afraid to tell his liberal wife. What are the chances guys? 0.01%?
High, especially if they're younger. Half of Gen Z has lied about who they vote for in what researchers believe is an attempt to not strain work, familial, or social relationships. 27% Democrats, 20% Republican and I think 23% of Independents. Posting now so I don't lose the comment, going to add the link soon as I find it.
The convicted rapist and the couch fucker really planted their flag on Toxic Masculinity hill, didn't they?
Jesse Watters criticize these efforts, claiming they undermine family values.
Mr "Family values" man, Watters, is a Fox hypocrite and stooge.
Watters was married to Noelle Inguagiato from 2009 to 2019, and they have twin daughters. Inguagiato left Watters in October, 2017 after he admitted to cheating on her with DiGiovine.
I do so love this idea, LOL. The impotent rage of a whole lot of redhat douchenozzles....
Anarchist socialist antifa liberal democrats have infiltrated MAGA, die mad about it
I mean, I hope they are right, but they seem to be putting an awful lot of faith in the notion that enough women are going to do this in the right zip codes to make a difference.
I mean, I don't think this is an official campaign strategy or anything. It's just a trend of women independently realizing the GOP is bad for them and their husbands don't care...
There are adverts reminding woman that voting is private. It's part of the campaign strategy, but it's not a central part.