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Phoronix: Linus Torvalds Comments On The Russian Linux Maintainers Being Delisted
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Shit like this is why I use the most generic yankee cowboy aliases online.
As a finn, I understand that there are probably legal reasons for doing this.
I just wish they would be transparent and share those reasons with us. The Linux kernel is certainly not the only free software project that is impacted, if this comes straight from EU/US sanctions. Maintainers of other projects have a lot of interest in what is happening.
Transparency is also important because if EU/US policy/sanctions are causing issues for free software projects, then that discussion needs to be public, so that there is a chance to amend the policies if necessary.
The legal reasons was because the Linux Foundation is based in the USA and the targeted devs worked for companies explicitly sanctioned by the USA. Linus said he knew and trusted the devs he was forced to delist.
The Linux Foundation needs to relocate to some stable neutral country like Switzerland.
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We're gonna start seeing large open source communities start to break into smaller ones because of sanctions from now aren't we?
You don't need sanctions. I've seen you petty fucks fork projects over a font.
They'll fight over fonts meanwhile WordPress is on fire and where are the forks?
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This sets such a bad precedent...
The bad precedent was starting a war
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Linus has never been the best communicator, but he usually speaks the truth. But this is just bonkers and wrong. Not everyone living in Russia has "ties with Russia" other than "they were born there". If this is about sanctions, he could have still just told them that. But instead he just disrespected contributors completely and then double down in it by being xenophobic.
It's really disappointing seeing Russian contributors being disrespected like this, the regime that rules Russia wasn't entirely their fault, and allegiance, nationality, and ethnicity are all clearly different things
Also, wouldn't a state sponsored Russian hacker pretend to be from the US or something anyway? No way they'd contribute code as a Russian, that'd just increase others' suspicion
I agree with Linus a lot too but I strongly disagree here. I hope he's just being made to say this because of government policies
And the most dangerous part here is the whole rethoric of "if you disagree, you are a Russian shill".
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I don't understand how sanctions can impact free software, tbh, what's free about this? This leaves a weird taste, I have to admit.
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Free as in... obeys US foreign policy
I'm pretty sure not just the US wants Russia sanctioned to the oblivion. All of the Europe that borders Russia wants that. Now why would it be like that?
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Everyone who disagrees with me is a paid russian troll of course. Nobody would oppose blacklisting people based on nothing but their nationality unless they were getting paid for it.
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Huh. Lot of people Russian' to conclusions in this thread.
Sorry.
Shhh. Let Linus Finnish.
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Banning Israeli contributers too?
No, it's not like Israel is attacking its neighbors. It doesn't, does it?
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so are we okay with banning development time donated to foss because of nationality?
are these people found to support heinous shit or is this just wartime shenanigans?
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The comments under the article are a special kind of braindead.
Always is with Phoronix comments.
You find everything there from "Gnome is satanist" all the way up to pro-genocide crap.
I really don't know what it is about the site that brings out the craziest souch.
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He alludes to sanctions being a factor but never clarifies on advice from his lawyers. ngl I don't like the look of it just from a transparency perspective.
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Shame to see this shit from torvalds
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