Guess what!
Food is also a human right!
Guess what!
Food is also a human right!
That is a real quote and absolutely fucking atrocious.
On the one hand, extremists think one of two things necessary for life should be a right.
On the other, I want to exploit those needs for personal gain.
...Times like these I wish I wasn't an atheist so I could find solace in the idea that they'd burn in hell. Instead they'll live a life of luxury while people die.
All these sociopaths just want personal gain, and don't realize that it makes us all lose. And when we all lose (at this stage of the game) we ALL lose!
The thing is, food should absolutely be a right, but also, food requires work to produce, water literally falls from the sky, comes out of a source by itself, and flows in a river. It's the most basic and natural of natural resources.
It will surprise you to hear, that food also is just there. It literally grows on trees
And these fucks consider water a foodstuff... You don't do anything to water it just is.
Pepsi is a foodstuff, you make it. I don't claim a right to have Pepsi.
A hotdog is a foodstuff, you make it. I don't claim a right to have a hotdog.
Water is water... We literally need it to survive, even sooner than we need food. It's something like 7 days without water and you die, but at least 30 without food...
Food literally grows on its own. It can take work to produce but it literally just does that.
It’s a real quote, but it’s taken out of context.
The CEO was making the point that the municipal water supply should be priced to reduce water wastage, which does have merit (and most municipalities do price water). He was saying that people who oppose water pricing do so on the grounds that water is a human right, which he called an extreme position.
He never actually said that water isn’t a human right, just that he thinks making water free because it’s a human right is an “extreme position”. He later clarified that he believes having enough water to live is a human right, but beyond that, filling up a swimming pool is not a human right.
He was making this argument in the context of arguing for the privatization of the municipal water supply, which I do not agree with. But I don’t think he’s wrong to argue for water pricing.
That guy should be hunted down and killed.
That Nestlé guy. Not the star trek guy.
I don't think having a right to something removes that it might also have a market value, it just puts constraints on that market value and the ability to access it. Often but not always mediated by welfare payments, pensions, or government coupon rates.
Indeed.
Food for the vast majority of the world is a human right, but it has market value.
Shelter likewise is also a human right, but that also obviously holds market value.
I think that in a practical sense theres also a difference between drinking water and water to top up a swimming pool or run a sprinkler for hours a day to keep your lawn perfect.
Policing or regulating this in any meaningful way would be a nightmare but its a legitimate counterpoint.
While most of the world's people continue to live in Asia, much of the increase in hunger since 2017 occurred in Africa and South America. The FAO's 2017 report discussed three principal reasons for the recent increase in hunger: climate, conflict, and economic slowdowns.
In 2022, Asia was home to 55% (402 million) of the people in the world affected by hunger, while more than 38% (282 million) lived in Africa.
Ideally there'd be a socialist system that would be effective at distributing food and water.
Problem is socialism has the worst track record when it comes to feeding people. The worst famines in history happened under socialist systems.
And the whole "water is a human right" slogan is really silly hyberbole. If it were an actually a right then I could move to the middle of a desert and the government would be forced to build the infrastructure needed to provide me water. I don't think that's what people mean, but it's what the slogan means.
Just say it's bad when people struggle to get basic needs like food and water. Hyperbole is just setting yourself in a losing argument and doesn't actually sway anyone.
I meant to post my reply here but it's on top level instead https://lemmy.world/comment/13066234
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