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Which is the better option + spinning a vm is possible and ltsc the only issue is I have to repirte a windows license for ltsc(and according to Microsoft ltsc was mostly designed for embedded systems) thanks for any help and I decided to post it on the linux community bcs I couldn't find a suitable place to post it and this is related to linux but man I love linux tho and if I go with the jumpship method I have to sadly leave some games behind like roblox (it's fine due to some moderation issues bad games etc etc but ngl its a fun game ik sober exists but i kinda dont wanna use a android emulator to play roblox i could use it since its our only option for linux and also i need to wait some time for my affinity subscription to end orrrr i try running it on bottles/wine again)

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[–] [email protected] 60 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Jump the ship, I did 6 years ago, before even proton was a thing when games worked witha lot of thinkering.

Nowdays you habe so many great games working you won't mind a couple of games not working because of all the other playable games.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 22 hours ago

Did you write "thinkering" on purpose? Because it's fantastic.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Oh yeah true I can run most of my games I play daily fine( including proton and native but gmod has some hiccups on native linux tho) on my dualbooted partition or in this case separate hardrive (excluding roblox like mentioned in the post)

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 23 hours ago (10 children)

I would almost recommend GPU passthrough if you have a dual GPU system and can figure it out. It definitely takes a bit of tinkering, but I like the results: I now have both a Windows 10 (maybe will become 11, maybe 11 LTSC) and a Hackintosh VM. It's not as good if you only have one graphics card, through. If you're up for it, I used this tutorial. If it's an AMD card, though, make sure to check my issue for any steps relating to that.

As for dual boot, get a second drive if you can. I find it helps me avoid a lot of the misery, although I very rarely actually boot up Windows anymore - just a VM if I really have to (which I do for MATLAB because my university is ridiculous and I figure if I'm going to use an evil programming language, I might as well use it in an isolated, evil environment).

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You should set up dual boot now so you don’t get surprised by differences when support ends and you feel the need to switch to an ltsc sku or use Linux.

Don’t wait, prepare!

Keep a hold of windows for a little while so that if something critical comes up that you can’t figure out you have a fallback.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

ok prob 4-months/1 year i will keep a hold of windows

[–] [email protected] 2 points 23 hours ago (11 children)

A good project between now and then is to investigate the iot sku. It has everything “unnecessary” cut out because it’s intended to be installed on refrigerators and has a much longer support window (2032?) for the same reason.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 18 hours ago

I jump shipped to arch when I first started out. But I had experience with Linux vms for school already

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I’ve been a dual / triple / god knows how many OS booted since the 90’s.

Windows has gotten into bad habits lately - it’s not staying in its lane. Meaning it hasn’t respected other boot partitions for a long time, and recently there seems to be a lot of people having problems with windows nuking their linux installs.

My strong recommendation is to buy a second hard drive if you dual boot. Then windows can be “over there” - I’ve never had a problem dedicating ssds to the OS. My second recommendation is to do this now, why wait until you’re forced into something? You’ve got a year to learn Linux and get comfortable with it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

oh yeah speaking of other drives its better since gparted doesnt let you merge it somtimes into one linux disk causing you to reinstall

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 day ago

The longer you wait, the more distros we'll have to argue about when you ask for suggestions

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Why wait? There's no need for Windows, unless you're running some super-specialized app. The new versions of Windows already have telemetry and privacy issues, so why just go with minimal security options that MS is selling you? You can do almost everything in Linux just as well, if not better, than Windows does at this point. Start with Linux Mint, which is the most Windows-y distribution and you should be golden.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Why wait? Start using Linux friendly software in your day to day workflows. Then start to dual boot Linux with your current system and start using it more and more. By the time windows 10 reaches EOL you will know if you still need a Windows install or not.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (13 children)

I am already dualbooting I discovered most of my software I need work first I need to get rid of affinity suite since it's a trial and then I can get rid of roblox if I start becoming bored of it for multiple reasons(rubin Sim explains this well)

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You can always consider the experience of using Linux as a "game" itself and DU ET NAO!

...no really. Do it.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Throwing out another idea: I upgraded an aging laptop and put mint on it and it's my main right now, but I can get on the newer windows computer if I need to. I rarely need to now, though things will come up and its nice to have an out. Recently it was getting my printer working which I so rarely use. Didn't have the patience, just needed the doc printed, flipped to windows.

It's a little sad to me. I watched windows rise to its peak with windows 2000 and slowly fall. Been using it since 3.1, and had dos-only for a little while before that. It's time to say goodbye. Been on and off with Linux since the early 2000s but this is my first real big push to use it outside of work or projects. Linux has come a long way from those days.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

what printer brand your on?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

It's a Canon. If I just sit down for a bit with it I'm sure I can get it working, but sometimes you just want it to work right now.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (1 children)

oh brother people say it works and hp there is a software for it and idk about canon but there is prob no linux support like their cameras.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Cups takes some playing with to get right but once you have it setup and saved, the thing should work whenever

[–] [email protected] 2 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

ohh yeah cups i forgot ik its used by the hp software

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I switched a year or so ago and never looked back. there will be issues you need to overcome though. so better start with dualboot before windows 10 is eol

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 17 hours ago

Honestly I'm considering just using Windows server 2022. I've got it running on my dedi and it's great. I don't see any reason not to just install it on my pc too.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

No better way to learn and get used to it than ripping off the bandage and being forced to deal with it. That's what I did. Been Windows-free for ten years. If you still have a Windows partition around, it may be too tempting to just go back to it when things get a bit hairy.

As far as games, yeah, it sucks that I can't play some games, but I've filled that time with more productive hobbies. I can program C and C++ now, self taught on Linux.

But the more people that jump ship, the more developers will target Linux, so it's just a matter of time now before you can play anything again. It's definitely a 1000x better environment now than when I switched back then.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

if you only play mostly indie,singleplayer they should work fine in my opinion and apps find the alterntives?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

Windows is dropping support for dual boot?

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Every sane person will recommend Linux only. However not everyone can use it. WMs decrease performance so you'll need good hardware. Dualboot may delete one of your OSes. It's a matter of if it's worth it or not. I personally don't see a problem with running Windows only for gaming. Though if you're paranoid about privacy then it may not be a good idea if your Linux partition is not encrypted (if there are backdoors, someone can mount your Linux partition remotely and read it etc etc). If you still want to keep Windows, buy a second physical drive to avoid the OS deletion risk.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

Jump ship. Just know, windows will pull you back in, especially if you work in corporate/office work. I was doing my work from home on Linux for two years straight, then my work mandated windows 11 for everyone. It’s been a nightmare. I just want my xfce!

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If you switch to single boot Linux you can always install Windows in a virtual machine later in a pinch.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

Doo Eeeet, Doo EEeet Now!!!

Seriously though, I vote VM under linux. Spin it up for whatever you need, use it less and less, no regrets...

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I wish I could switch to Linux but sadly I can't (one of the main things I use a computer for won't work on Linux) so I'll be using windows 10 beyond eol and forever into the foreseeable future and I don't see native instruments making a Linux version any time soon. I email them at least once a year asking about it in the hope they one day fucking do it!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

Ltsc is possible it is for embedded systems tho

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

Jump ship with us all! 😁 At this point, the very few games that I am leaving behind are only the ones that use anticheat systems that do not work with linux, and I don't think I'll really miss letting a game company rootkit my macine...

I would go the VM route first, and if you run into any troubles then you still always have the option of installing a 2nd hard drive for bare-metal windows dual boot later. If you do need to dual boot, I don't recommend partitioning one hard drive. Windows isn't good at sharing.

If you're new to linux and unsure about what distribution to install, there are plenty of better sources online with distro recommendations. I tend to use Debian on server/headless and Fedora for desktop/laptop. But I will say, picking an option with the KDE/Plasma desktop environment will probably be the easiest transition. It should feel and look pretty familiar to what you are used to with Windows and many distros offer an installation for KDE/Plasma.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

If you’re new to linux and unsure about what distribution to install, there are plenty of better sources online with distro recommendations. I tend to use Debian on server/headless and Fedora for desktop/laptop. But I will say, picking an option with the KDE/Plasma desktop environment will probably be the easiest transition. It should feel and look pretty familiar to what you are used to with Windows and many distros offer an installation for KDE/Plasma.

I have used linux in the past and currently using it i have been using linux more then windows

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

ngl most of the games that don't work on linux are owned by frauds companies or have issues with management and waiting for affinity subscription to end as well i wanna get rid of the other windows ssd i can get the most space with raid

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I tried dual-booting Win10 and Arch for a few months. It was problematic.

I had to set the clock every time I switched because one expected the hardware clock to use UTC time and the other expected local time.

NTFS on Linux is not good. The driver works, but there are fundamental differences between NTFS and Unix-like filesystems that makes cooperation difficult (e.g. NTFS uses ACLs instead of the user/group ownership and user/group/others permissions of Unix). Windows also places additional restrictions on the filesystem (e.g. NTFS supports file names that contain :, Windows doesn't) that can completely bork the volume if violated.

But the worst offender, and what made me nuke Windows entirely, is Windows Update. It completely fucked up the boot partition, deleted the bootloader, then died and left Windows unusable.

These are all issues that can be solved, if you know how to solve them. My advice is to go cold turkey and delete Windows from your life.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Better just start dual booting. If you begin to use Windows less and less, you can throw away that Windows partition and expand your Linux partition.

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