Cross-posted from https://hexbear.net/post/3725627 by @[email protected]
anti-furry is usually thinly veiled queerphobia and ableism against a prominently queer and neurodivergent community
this post was submitted on 21 Oct 2024
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I doubt it's ever anything else, honestly...
A well adjusted non-furry learning about furries for the first time: "doesn't sound like it's for me." (and then they proceed to never think about it again)
true
The kind of people that still have generic hatred of furries tend to also be South Park brained "caring about things too much is stupid and bad" ideology too.
They hate it when people care about human suffering, environmental collapse, or societal crises, but take time to be really mad that furries exist. 
Furries are a great litmus test because they are furries by choice, and are "weird" by societal standards, but are also completely harmless and there's literally nothing lost by just letting them live their lives.
So anyone who takes a strong stance against them is highly suspect, and almost certainly has deeper prejudices they just know aren't socially acceptable to say.
Imagine having "getting mad at others' special interests/hobbies" as your special interest/hobby lol.
Instead of thinking "not for me, but yeah, cool for them!" you just get 
. Sounds like a lousy time lol
When you base your identity on appearing as a "very serious and 'normal' adult" I imagine it is very easy to get angry and jealous of people being silly and having a good time. You're boring. Just hold the L.
I mean, there's times and places for the serious adult face, but having that ALL THE TIME? Bordering on 
lol
To me it's a strong red flag of immaturity for someone to try to be Vincent Adultman all the time and to try to bully others into doing the same.
Truly, must be miserable.
i don't even get being broadly anti-furry today, coming from someone who is quite averse to the common conception of 'furry culture.' it's edgy but not like, edgy racist edgy. It's a weird safe sort of edge where the moralistic backing is 'they fuck animals!!!' until they find out they're thinking of something different and then they just internally reset and pretend they didn't hear that
it's 100% a losing battle too because the internet is owned by furries. like built funded and inhabited by furries. you're out of place if you have a serious problem with furries, which i really can't stress enough, is just sort of a benign hobby.
Huh, I thought that the Drej Queen of the Drej Tank doing something really funny to bigots would be cool.
It is.
Hating on furries seems super anachronistic on the internet of today, it was something that was popular on Something Awful 20+ years ago, who cares about furries now?
There was also always a very short distance between picking on furries and picking on other ”weird” people including the LGBT community, which isn't surprising since SA at the time loved using the F-slur as a generic insult.
There are probably people well into their 40s who still think ”Cliff Yablonsky Hates You” is hysterical, that's possibly even sadder than all the people who are still South Park brained.
When Lowtax died, Somethingawful's culture changed so much that they didn't just celebrate his death (and expressed sympathy for the people he hurt, including in his own family) but a lot of the power users there are now furries themselves.
I won't say it's "good" but it's certainly not /pol/.
I know, although the culture had started to change long before Lowtax died. Even before he was outed as a domestic abuser, SA users thought he was like some kind of useless internet landlord who collected money through the site and his Patreon while doing nothing. Turns out he spent that money on living in a McMansion and leasing a Nissan GT-R.
Most of the chuds also either left the site or actually grew past early 2000s edgelord internet humor.
Most of the chuds also either left the site or actually grew past early 2000s edgelord internet humor.
Most of them migrated to 4ch!n, especially after SA banned the kiddie creeping cartoons that so many chuds crave.
The one thing I can't fault Lowtax for, getting rid of the hentai creeps was obviously the right move, and I doubt anyone could've foreseen what a massive cesspool would grow out of that.
Dumping out the toxic waste was a good idea, though the toxic waste gathered itself up into a superfund site.
Common none/user name flair L
I'm not anti-furry... BUT...
Maybe don't be a German Shepard as your fursona
Shopping Cart theorem 2.0: Will you do the right thing even if doing the wrong thing might reward you with some internet street cred?
gotta get that internet street cred amirite
It's not as bad as it was toward the beginning, but it still occasionally feels like everyone is playing 
on this site.
Hexbear should always be in a state of purges.
Do you want an insular community that's effectively just the size of a small clique, and still manages to be constantly at war with itself? Because that's how you get there.
Call me naive but I've operated under the principle of "we're all ~~friends~~ commies here". Many people I know IRL were caught up in a social circle that did constant witch-hunting, and it imploded after people realized it was a proto-cult formation.
Yeah but are you gonna say the misogynist purges are a bad thing? That's the sort of purge I mean.
Mostly not a bad thing, it depends on what is labeled as "misogyny". I once had a very brief and measured pro-vegan question removed for "racism", this was in a struggle session about vegans that we later learned was instigated by a wrecker. But if someone has a clear record of being hostile and/or reactionary or otherwise being particularly problematic for certain demographics, it's okay to kick them. I will fully own up to my limited awareness of what people are like on this site, but my picture is very rosy.
In the site's early days I spoke up about mass bans, a user was critical of me for it, I messaged them about 20 banned accounts that I'd grown used to seeing, they responded by saying that 3 users on the list were problematic and demanding that I never message them again. At least 2 on the list were unbanned and remain active users to this day.
Of course, they could just make new accounts, but is it wrong to want to grow that familiarity with each other?
There was also at least one mod who would hand out bans for disagreeing with them, including for criticizing them for being too trigger-happy with banning.
Idk I'm just very wary of most purges, and I think I have reason to be. In cases like this it would at least be a lot clearer if there was a count of strikes against someone visible on their profile.
I have an opinion about one thing I think could make stronger socialist movements but at this point I'll keep it to myself, as it feels less certain and important than many other things, and the climate still isn't right for it.
Huh, I don't disagree with this actually. I can say I'm finding the misogyny removals (very few bans yet) to be pretty even handed at least.
I just looked through those (normally I rarely can justify keeping track so closely).
There was the new account who said he was pro-women's liberation but was terrified of women having autonomy (real life cumtown bit, almost tagline material), and there was AndJusticeForAll, who- even to a casual like me- very obviously came off as DayOfDoom's alt. Those two had it coming. Other than that, there were a couple temp bans of people arguing in good faith, and a couple bans of people merely being slightly rude. Idk I don't think making a rash reaction without considering all the potential consequences is the same as misogyny. I don't think our friendly neighborhood plumber dad was being misogynistic, especially because he later felt ambivalence, he had just acted without full consideration (which we all do all the time to some extent). The struggle session over Loss felt weird bit I'm not gonna tell someone they shouldn't have a take like that.
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