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[–] 141 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Well yeah, driving people to quit to save money on severance from the impending layoffs is the whole point of forcing them to return to the office

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  • [–] 10 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    They should really open just an absolute shit load of individual constructive dismissal cases.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    My guess is that by going fully onsite, they can probably avoid layoffs entirely. The majority of tech roles are hybrid or remote so the departures are going to be often and steady which will naturally select out anyone not interesting in making their life Amazon. They want employees that live and breath Amazon and this is how they get that (or just keep desperate people).

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  • [–] 74 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    So in this instance would quiet quitting lead to the desired result? Just doing the most subpar work until they’re forced to fire you with a severance…

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  • [–] 64 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    Oh, permission to leave the plantation, thank you boss sir.

    Same old slave owner personalities.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slave_plantation

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  • [–] 52 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Would continue to work from home until they fire me.

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  • [–] 49 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    Any manager high up enough to be talking on a news channel doesn’t have the degree of interaction with workers to know what they think.

    Source: every job I’ve ever had

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  • [–] 44 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    As an Amazon employee...the man blatantly lied about the figures for those happy to RTO. He probably got them by seeing that ~10% of corporate staff are in the remote advocacy channel, and assumed that everyone else was...happy?

    Regardless, Amazon is known as a place that values data above anything else. If you are a fresh grad PM and you're caught fudging or misrepresenting numbers to suit a narrative, guess what happens to you. You are more than likely PIP'd or fired

    I'd say that Matt Garman should be fired for lying about the data, but given that Jassy has a habit of lying about figures also, the rot is at the top.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago (6 children)

    I think people working at amazon and shopping at amazon, both without clear necessity, are part of the problem.

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  • [–] 33 points 2 years ago

    This was always the intention.

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  • [–] 29 points 2 years ago

    Break up big tech. Regulate monopolies before the cause the second great depression.

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  • [–] 27 points 2 years ago

    amazon unhappy with happier employees can leave too

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  • [–] 19 points 2 years ago

    Amazon employees starting their own businesses in 3-2-1...

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  • [–] 16 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Why is even the writer of the article lying about the reason? Everyone knows this is about real estate value propping up the stock price.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago (13 children)

    Man, there are people who will argue until they are blue in the face that the purpose is not real estate.

    The "only" evidence I can provide is that the values of proximal commercial properties is rapidly losing value because the workforce that provided business to those properties is no longer there. And just because the properties have investments made by the company doesn't mean they own them outright (despite the value tying into their businesses net worth).

    Of course they would lie about this. It doesn't benefit the real estate owners and the business to publicly share that investments are losing value because of natural economics. The entire financing industry is based on lies to begin with, can't change that now (/s).

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Why would Amazon give a shit if real estate values go down? Amazon isn't a real estate company.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Are you actually interested in the answer to that or just running in here to argue? I figure it'll save me effort if you tell me before I answer.

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  • [–] 14 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    "Please leave! If we fire you, we have to pay unemployment, but your replacements will be younger (less costly health problems) and will accept less pay. It's win-win-win for us if you leave of your own accord!"

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  • [–] 9 points 2 years ago

    I know two senior programmers at Amazon who found new jobs rather than RTO. Within 24 hours after they left they got emails from recruitment identifying them as “boomerang candidates”, offered them a decent raise, and offered full time remote work.

    This is nothing more than getting people to quit and hiring back key personnel lost in the process.

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  • [–] 14 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    They will do whatever they can get away with.

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  • [–] 13 points 2 years ago (1 child)
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    [–] 11 points 2 years ago

    I've heard that this is the new type of layoffs big tech is doing. Massive layoffs that are required lower the stock price but people quitting is not news. So the best strategy to get rid of staff is to create a hostile work environment temporarily until you reach the right amount.

    This is a really bad idea for long term health of a company. The people that stay are the ones that will struggle to find new jobs and the people that leave probably already have another job at a competing firm lined up.

    It's just straight up dumb but keeps the stock price high and the CEO gets his bonus.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 years ago

    That's right about when I would start slacking off real hard.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago

    I'll just leave this here.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago

    Paging Tyler durden on this mf

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Time to set up effigies on gibbets for totally peaceful protest purposes.

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    [–] 2 points 2 years ago

    Well... uhhh... that was Amazon's plan. I thought we were on the same page.

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