I'll belive it when I see it. As in, aerial CO2 PPM increase slows down at least.
this post was submitted on 14 Oct 2024
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Yeah, hopefully this is some genuinely good news, but it's hard not to see it as an unbelievably positive spin on the fact that this year we'll emit more CO2 than any year in record.
Yeah agreed I remember reading back then that 2020 would be peak, but we've sailed right past that and emissions were higher than predicted. And we've kept on increasing even with the covid dip pushing things down.
Given how much energy AI is gobbling up, with no end in sight, I wouldn't take the bet that 2024 is the peak year for CO2 emissions. I'd love to be wrong.
Customer preferences: The rise of Artificial Intelligence in the global market has been fueled by a growing demand for personalized and efficient solutions. Consumers are increasingly looking for AI-driven products and services, such as virtual assistants and chatbots, to streamline their daily tasks and improve their overall experience.
Blatantly untrue, ~~not~~ a single person I speak to is glad that AI has been shoved into their products, or goes out of their way to use a product because of its AI integration.
But yeah, AI is going to kill any chance of climate recovery unless the bubble bursts soon
Hi, it's me. I an beyond excited for what LLMs have achieved in just a few years, and use them daily. Why Google for info and deal with clickbait BS with novels of unrelated garbage when I can just get a straightforward answer from AI? It's far from perfect, but it makes my workday 10x easier.
Well for one, the clickbait BS has become worse because of the LLMs :P I think its cool tech, don't get me wrong. Before it started getting shoved into every product and before its environmental impact started skyrocketing, I was keenly interested in it. In all honesty, I still am, but I'm keenly interested in what happens with it after the bubble pops and the real use cases are left behind. Text summarisation and code prediction are two genuine use cases I've seen have tremendous success. But I don't need an LLM built into every product I use, and I don't need every product I use to be training LLMs.
I'm having a hard time understanding. Can you offer an example of a product with an LLM built in that serves no purpose?
I didn't say they don't serve a purpose, I said that customers didn't ask for it/don't want it. I also said AI, not LLM (initially).
They serve a purpose, but in many cases are not well suited or ready for production.
Examples?
I use a food delivery app that added an AI chatbot to supposedly help you with restaurant and food suggestions, and it wasn't able to handle simple dietary restrictions (whereas standard filtering options on the search work just fine). A prompt as simple as "I'm looking for restaurants with vegan sandwiches" would return places that had vegan food and/or sandwiches. Even if it worked properly, just having adequate filter options and robust search is far more suited to the kinds of things users are doing on this kind of app.
Search engines putting their in-house LLM generated slop above actual search results, which is the equivalent of ensuring that the first search result is from a garbage site with hit or miss accuracy of information or relevance to the topic. I don't imagine it will be long before we start to see generative ai image results being served on the fly by in-house products when you search for images. Pass the user query to an LLM to generate a prompt for image gen, then pass that to image gen and bam! Slop!
Every fucking product has some stupid gradient-coloured ✨ AI button shoved into it now and it drives me up the wall.
Putting LLM auto complete into IDEs? Great, as long as I can turn it off and as long as they're not training it on the code I write in the IDE. AI denoising in rendering software? Excellent. Image infill/outfill using AI in photo editing and drawing software? Spot on.
How much CO2 does AI use compared to other industries? I know it's a horrific use compared to all other software, but have no idea how it factors in global carbon emmissions?
Also, just to be clear, I'm genuinely curious and not defending burning huge amounts of carbon for profit if the AI sector is comparatively small. That kind of backwards "but it just a small amount of everything else" logic would be a great way to accelerate our already too fast death spiral.
It's not enough, but it's a start. Keep up the good work, everyone. "The world is managing to bend the curve on emissions due to the mass adoption of solar, batteries, and electric vehicles. These emissions-free technologies are helping to displace fossil fuels; next year, renewables could surpass coal, per an International Energy Agency forecast released last week."
This smells like bullshit
The Reminder bot needs to be pinged for a date at the end of 2025. I would laugh if it wasn't such a dire situation.