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[–] 99 points 2 years ago (7 children)

That clock placement is giving me anxiety

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  • [–] 27 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    That's probably one of the updates

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    [–] 96 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    yolo, friend. yolo.

    what packaging system?

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  • [–] 92 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Duct tape and baling wire, perhaps?

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  • [–] 95 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    Average rolling release distro user experience

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    [–] 82 points 2 years ago

    Just think of all the great things you're going to learn about emergency boot recovery!

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  • [–] 75 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    Side note: "I'mma" is a contraction of the whole phrase "I'm going to" or "I'm about to" so it's followed immediately by the verb indicating what you'll be doing:

    "I'mma rawdog this sucker without backups."

    Yes, I added sucker, because it's going to suck up all your time and data, sucka!

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  • [–] 56 points 2 years ago

    Just do a fresh install man. I'm getting anxiety just by looking at it.

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  • [–] 48 points 2 years ago (22 children)

    If forgetting/not wanting to update puts you in this hole, like… ever, you should really give an atomic distro some serious consideration.

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  • [–] 24 points 2 years ago (14 children)

    Say more please? What's the advantage?

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  • [–] 28 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    The system files aren't writable, instead you download a new system image when you want to update. No dependency hell or weird issues because these system images are all tested. Your system also keeps one or two old ones around and if by some chance something does go wrong you just select the old one at boot.

    Downside is you're more limited on installing software. You can force install things the traditional way but that kinda defeats the point. Instead you have to use things like FlatPak or AppImages which covers most GUI apps you could want. For command line apps you will have to use something like DistroBox.

    It's a trade off but for casual desktop users it is super stable and pretty simple. Updates come out daily (depending on distro) and they just get all their software from the software center app with a nice GUI.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 years ago (6 children)

    (correct me if I'm wrong, I'm also new at this)

    There are two partitions. One with the current system, one with the previous system. Updates are applied in a whole batch at once, once in a while.

    Current system is cloned into the old one and an update is applied to the clone.

    Once the update is complete, system reboots in the clone, and what was the current system becomes the previous one.

    If something goes bad, you can reboot into the previous system and fix the clone.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago (6 children)

    I know its a meme but nixos is actually good for this. You can be on the unstable branch, not update for 5 years and still get everything working after updating(tho i dont recommend because of security). I think nixos has some fucking AMAZING features but the problem is its paired with features that make it extremely hard to use for a casual user.

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  • [–] 34 points 2 years ago* (4 children)

    I've updated an Arch install after not being used for 2 years. I don't think there were any issues.

    I've experienced far more issues upgrading to a new major release of an apt based distro though...

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    [–] 31 points 2 years ago* (10 children)

    It's my experience that Ubuntu and Fedora break if you don't upgrade often (and then suddenly do after a year), while arch doesn't... Which is interesting, since it's supposed to be the other way around...

    I think it's because Fedora and Ubuntu add a lot of new things, while arch just updates it's packages.

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    [–] 29 points 2 years ago

    It's been an hour, I think OP didn't make it!!!!

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  • [–] 24 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    Maybe I'm just screaming into the void here, but does it seem like, as a person who is still relatively out of touch with linux, I don't necessarily have to update my Arch distribution whenever there are new updates available? I could theoretically just go on downloading new programs, uninstalling old ones, using everything as it sits until theoretically something breaks?

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  • [–] 9 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    You should always run a full upgrade when installing a new package to make sure your versions are all in sync. Like if your new package is looking for version 1.1 and you have 1.0 installed, the new package won't work. In general, everything should be installed with 'pacman -Syu' not just 'pacman -S'

    If you don't install any new packages, then no you don't need to upgrade anything. You're just missing out on security patches and upgraded features. It's worth running occasional upgrades.

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    [–] 24 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    Op, it's been an entire day... How'd did it go?

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  • [–] 21 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    And they were never heard from AGAIN! Oooooooo It is horror month, and that's pretty scary! :-D

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    [–] 13 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    And that is why I use Opensuse tumbleweed, no worries ever (zypper takes a snapshot before and after each upgrade, single command to roll back)

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    [–] 13 points 2 years ago

    Thoughts and prayers fren

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  • [–] 12 points 2 years ago

    Praying for your computer, friend

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    [–] 8 points 2 years ago

    Becareful with glibc

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  • [–] 8 points 2 years ago

    At that point I'd just backup my data and do a fresh install - would probably take less time too

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