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I remember reading or watching something that I can no longer find about how US public education creates a false economy for its students by its use of numeric grades which they accumulate throughout their schooling and how these grades are a kind of currency exchanged for being "good students."

I don't know if "false economy" is the correct term though. The wiki says:

a false economy or hallucinated economy is an action that does save money at the beginning but which, over a longer period of time, results in more money being spent or wasted than being saved.

But this is more about economizing as opposed to a broader concept of "fake" economy with a fake currency that incentivizes certain behaviors over others. Perhaps these are short-term over long-term behaviors (like in the wiki above) or that the grades can only measure limited aspects of students performance but are a reification of subjective performance into absolute worth or like Goodhart's law the grades are a key performance indicator (KPI) and don't actually measure what they should be measuring. The topic itself isn't strictly about education and can applied more broadly.

Does anyone know if there is a better term or if I'm off base and completely wrong?

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

i think you're conflating "economy" with "economic system" here. false economy here is more like the boots theory

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boots_theory

it's about individual actions, not the entire system of social relations. a false economy is buying cheap boots that are more expensive in the long term.

i think maybe you mean more like perverse incentive

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perverse_incentive

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Yes I think false economy is incorrect in how I mean it but I feel like there is a more specific term that I've heard or read that is different than simply perverse incentive. I might be losing my mind tho

Edit: alternatively, whatever I read or watched misused or redefined false economy to mean something else from what it is commonly understood to mean.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

yeah so he's making the argument that grades end up being a form of token economy, perhaps

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Token_economy

they're not a currency, directly, and he admits that, but their "exchange" value comes from the rewards and opportunities that become available to students with good grades

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That’s it. Holy shit. I’ve been unable to formulate a search that could possibly get the right results

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

IDK I'd want to problematize the assumption that grades are a currency earned through obedience. That may be true at a young age when grades don't matter, or for specific teachers with bad practice, but is not an accurate reflection of grading writ large. Grades are principally a measure of how much learning a student is able to demonstrate.

Like if you show up every day on time and are very friendly to your AP Physics teacher and only speak when spoken to but can't solve any physics problems you're not going to pass that course. Conversely, if you're late and talk in class but can solve every problem you're going to get an A

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Definitely hated reading that but didn't see anything in there that contradicted anything in my comment?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Ultimately my question was about the concept of a token economy that I knew I had read about in an education-related essay and not about the merits the author’s argument.