*(choose Wisely, as it isn't in the list)
Back in the days, it's normal for our grandparents to be named after animals (for the Chinese at least). I'm glad that is no longer the case.
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I like working with people named Frog and Tiger.
Those two are not animals that Chinese parents would name their child after. It's inauspicious.
Why is tiger inauspicious?
Maybe not so much as inauspicious but rather a not good name. For women, it's used tosay they're fierce and insinuate they're not marriage material.
Ah I see. I can definitely imagine some gangster with a name like 黃飛虎 lol
Yeah gangsters are different lol
A terrible day for my dog, Datuk Professor Haram 9
Is objectionable worse than undesirable
No, they're all banned. Malaysia has a law that bans babies being given names that fall into any of the 22 categories on this list. For some reason they've grouped them into names that could cause legal issues (objectionable) and names that are seen as cruel (undesirable). They give some examples but it's not an exhaustive list. If a name is ruled to belong in one of these 22 categories, it isn't allowed.
Every country has really different naming laws so they're neat to read about.
implying I'm not going to watch out for other lists
I got a classmate back in the dark old days, whose name translates to "kurang soleh"
You can get away with this if the name is in another language.
- Dragons in Chinese names are not unusual. Ah Long etc.
- Malay names with ~ul are technically objects. Nurul, Kamarul, Abdul etc. ~ul means "of", so for the name to be complete it should have something behind it, usually referring to God, eg. Nurul Ain, Kamaruddin, Abdulrahman. (Sauce: Arab speaking int student told me)
On your second point, I came across an online comment asking about a Malay name Saiful, "Saif means sword, so it is sword of what?"
When written in Arabic or Jawi, it is romanised as Saif Al-... No wonder they were confused.
that's why "of what" is a big (grammatical) deal. The usual construction is "of god" (or their many variants) and the ustaz/ahs so particular always lecture lol because konon melayu dah salah. (Anyway the usual construction is Saifuddin or Saifullah if properlah)
ETA: Abdul is also a landmine since it's servant/slave/subject of.... So Abdul Shams would be seen as idolatrous (Shams is the sun)
Yes, Saif-ul-Din (Sword of the Faith) was the name that Arab guy taught me back then. Saif for short. Saiful is grammatically wrong.
Dragons in Chinese names are not unusual. Ah Long
You do realise this is a nickname right? no sane person will name their kid Ah.
The word Long by itself is ok.
Yap Ah Loy: the fuck you say about my parents, punk!?
Tbf his name is 亞, not 阿. So that Ah is just “romanised” differently.
But real talk who would name their kid 阿 something lol
Well yeah, maybe the name is 亚龙(can be translated to Asian Dragon) that usually turned to Ah Long.
But then again, 阿 something is quite rare but i bet it exists.
Oops, yeah that's a poor choice for example. Jakie Chan (Seng Long) would be better?
In the end it depend on who's on duty when you submit the name, as objectionable and undesirable is all subjective and depend on how closed minded or open minded the officer are. I know someone named Ranger(profession), Tiger(animal), and Hunter(profession).
Then we have Leon, which name is connected to Leo(Lion, animal), Rose Daisy Iris Marigold Lily is all flower(plant), Ruby and Jade is gemstone(object), Smith is profession. But all these has desirable connotation, so the "objectionable & undesirable" is basically mean the word that bear negative meaning or is demeaning, like babi or...idk, Corpseflower Tan or Portuguese Man-O-War Kamarudin.
Biawak bin Ramli
And their offspring, Black Mamba bin Biawak
Kodok bin Black Mamba al-Biawak
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Rafflesia Tan😅
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