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[–] [email protected] 88 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (6 children)

Did the dad never change any diapers?

Micropenis is almost always evident from birth. Always afaik, but I'm leaving room for edge cases I've never heard of.

So you'd have to be a pretty hands off dad not to see it, even if it somehow wasn't noticed or reported to the parents by the doctors involved.

Edit: also, obviously fake and gay, forgot where I was for a second and was pretending it was real for discussion/entertainment sake.

[–] [email protected] 65 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I can't imagine most first time parents innately know what a baby's penis is supposed to look like, is it really that obvious?

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah, it's pretty obvious.

It tends to happen the most with other atypicalities, but even when it doesn't, it just doesn't look right. Humans have certain proportions, ratios, and we can usually tell when someone is off by a fairly small margin. Genitals are no different in that regard.

You might not immediately think "micropenis", but you'd be able to tell things weren't normative.

Now, it might be pretty easy to shove that aside and assume it would grow later on, and they do. They just don't grow to normative proportions, they stay micro, just not the same size as they start.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Just another anecdote, but I have 2 boys. I can't tell if one has a micropenis and the other has a macropenis. One looks smaller than proportional, but not "micro?" One looks, well, otherwise. They are both huge kids otherwise.. Maybe they are both near other sides of average, but I'm not spending time trying to figure that out.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Well, if they're much past infancy, there's only so much that could be done until they're adults anyway. Afaik, the kind of hormonal treatments to cause growth work way less past the early years. After that, it tends to need surgical intervention to change, but that's just based on the last time I was reading up on it, which has been about a year at this point.

That being said, it's worth talking to their doctor because the underlying causes can cause other problems that would be better detected early.

It's a really simple thing to have checked, it's just measuring the penis and comparing that to charts. No trauma involved, no complicated procedure, and unless it does point to a formal diagnosis there's no further action needed.

It's one of those things where knowing can give everyone involved time to prepare for anything down the road.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I don't think it was that uncommon for a boomer dad to never change a diaper. One of my friends dad was bragging about it and my own dad was a little surprised to see me change one. Luxury of a single income supporting a middle class family of 4 I guess.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

Well, considering the is dated last year, I didn't consider that anon would be old enough to have boomer parents and be coming out late in life, but that is possible. I sometimes forget that my generation hasn't all come out yet. I'm just so used to the only people coming put in my life being under 30, that it's become three unconscious association that someone coming out has to be younger.

You'd think I'd know better, what with seeing the occasional article about someone from my mom's age range deciding it's time to transition, and she was at the tail end of the baby boom.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm 40 and would have no idea how big penis of a toddler should be - and with all growth hormone stuff happening, I wouldn't feel comfortable at judging at this age (besides that it is mostly irrelevant in long term relationships)

Also, my personal penis, so to speak, can be very minor, but as a grower I needed to step up my confidence, when being naked - but of curse instead of an actual micro penis, mine seems to be just shy and needs some encouraging words or kisses.
So maybe I can't relate.

Still I think this idea is idiotic

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Micropenis is typically noticed in the initial physical exam after birth. The upper limit for that criteria is about half of the typical/normative, so it's visually distinct even at birth. It's not determined by erect length at all.

Penises do grow over time, no matter what size they start, but there's limits to how much. Even as puberty hits, someone with a micropenis will only get so much extra because of the underlying limitations of the tissues. If someone of normative length gets a 10% change (as an example, I don't recall the actual number ranges for pubertal changes), that same basic range is all the person with a micropenis is going to get too.

And you're exactly right, it has next to zero impact on long term relationships. I wanna say that out of maybe fifteen or sixteen patients I had that fit the criteria, all but three had kids. So it's definitely not a barrier to sex at all. The one patient I had that was unusually talkative about it (most of them would just state the fact and describe any special needs they'd have for bathing, then never mention it again) said that once he read "the joy of sex" and learned how to do oral, he and his wife did fine, which she said was true as well, fwiw.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

A study from the 80s showed that around 45% of fathers NEVER changed a diaper.

Things changed today but I would not be surprised if the dad never changed a diaper.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Dad doesn't have to be involved; could just be genetic.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

Yeah, that's true. I just don't think that way. Kinda dumb of me to not consider the possibilities. I mean, it could be a step-dad, and they didn't become anon's dad until later. Could have been deployed in the military and didn't have the chance. Someone else pointed out that the dad could have been older, in the actual baby boomer range; and that reminded me that I had assumed anon was a younger person when that doesn't have to be the case

I just default to the idea of fatherhood that I was raised around, and how I wanted to be a dad. Couldn't get out of my own head before I commented lol. You'd think I'd know better

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

My stepmom’s dad has bragged about never having changed a single diaper for his kids. He sees this as a victory. What a fucking creep.

[–] [email protected] 74 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (9 children)

A big reason that drove me was that I have a micropenis.

Fake. There are no "reasons to drive someone" other than their internal gender, this sounds like something ~~a cis person~~ someone who thinks being trans is a choice would say.

Edit: For clarity, I'm not speculating on whether or not the OP in the post is trans or cis, I'm saying it doesn't sound like a real story because it sounds inauthentic to the trans experience. A trans person could easily think this up, like anyone can make up a story that is close to their experiences, but since it isn't real it doesn't really pass scrutiny.

[–] [email protected] 66 points 1 month ago (3 children)

That's such reddit logic. You assume everyone has a perfect understanding of themselves, but people have a lot of different things internally that drive them and they're not always aware of it. When I was young I was interested in other men, and frankly, quite disgusted by it. It's the habitat I was raised in and if you'd asked me back then, I'd have told you it was because I was a sinner. The real reason as I came to discover was indeed that I'm just gay. It took a lot of steps and discovery to get there. I'm not saying this is real, I'm just pointing out that just because your logic is correct does not mean that this person if they are real has made enough discoveries about themselves to be strictly logical.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 month ago

Your internal gender didn't just fall out of a coconut tree.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Wait, are you saying people would lie on 4chan???

But seriously, yeah, people don't seem to realize that people tend to want to pick the path of least resistance. If someone really is trans I have to believe it's because who they are is so at odds with the expectations of society.

Edit: added a qualification because I am not trans

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Exactly. Coming to terms with being trans, when trans people have been seen as nothing but the butt of far too many jokes in damn near all exposure most of us had growing up, is a difficult process rife with cognitive dissonance and defense mechanisms. No one wants to be trans, they just want to be their gender and have to be trans to get that.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

The pain of self repression against the potential pain of self expression

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 month ago (2 children)

two of my trans women friends, when getting their sperm frozen before starting hormones, found out they just have XX chromosomes and never had working sperm in the first place

i think we underestimate how many intersex people there are

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Yup. My belief is that we are likely to eventually combine the categories of transgender and differences in sexual development (formerly known as intersex) as we discover more about it's biological origins. The vast majority of people have never been karyotyped and have no idea what their chromosomes are.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Idk 4chan has a notoriously toxic and strange trans community. Giving “reasons” is exactly the sort of thing I’d expect of them

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (7 children)

That's a good point. I haven't browsed 4chan since way before they had any LGBT community/rep visible on it, I don't know what kind of convoluted views they have. Let me guess, some of them unironcally identify as "agp" don't they?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (4 children)

There’s a whole lot of blanchardianism (agp vs hsts). Quite a bit of homophobia, it’s actually a lot straighter than you’d probably expect. A lot of how they act is surprisingly old school, like back in the day when you weren’t allowed to transition unless therapists thought you couldn’t live a normal life as your assigned sex old school. And all this with the characteristic 4chan edgy bs. Also they’re anti supportive, like full on terf forum level of critical of trans people’s appearance.

I haven’t been but I’ve learned to pick up the signs by seeing the shit trans people who come from 4chan say.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago (37 children)

This very well may be fake, but it's also entirely possible to identify as trans for any number of reasons. You might say such a person is "not really" trans but, supposing that is true, there's no contradiction between that and some person who doesn't have such ideological convictions having a thought process like you see in this image and acting on it.

That said, I agree that it's probably fake, though I'm not as confident that the poster is a cis impersonator.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 month ago

Bummer. If only there was more to relationships than penetrative sex. :/

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 month ago

Fake: OP is Trans

Gay: OP is very gay

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I have a thick 7" meat hammer I need a different excuse

[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Dad I'm sorry I look too cute in skirts

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Perf, "skirts are the only way I can let my massive dick breathe"

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

That is a valid reason to move to Scotland

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

"Well, dad, estrogen is the only thing that might make my crotch bludgeon somewhat managable."

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

"god meeded to nerf my big ween"

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Has anyone noticed there's little to non micropenis pornography?

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I saw a penis size chart recently, it showed the overall avg size versus porn actor sizes.

Overall people's average size was around 5.5" and average porn actor size was about 7" and there were very few porn actors with less than 6"

So porn is generally skewing people's perception of size if that's what they see more than in-person dongs. (haha in person)

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago (2 children)

The median would be interesting. Just in case there's one guy out there stocking a 12 footer.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

googled it, 12 inches is max but it's unusable. Guy refuses to make it useable because he wants to keep the record. Fair enough.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I would have to actually look for that.

So it’s kinda hard to notice what you aren’t looking for.

But you do you, no kink shaming.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago

Sis was basically built with a clit to begin with, will barely need any aftermarket mods to match female spec.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

he saw that I was serious

"Oh fuck, you're serious, just look at it!"

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