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I got banned from worldnews on lemmy.world for quoting Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy. The mods said I was being racist. I came back with citations and explained that I was replying to another HHGTTG quote with a line that followed it up in the book.
They wouldn't even consider it. No matter what, my comment "seemed racist."
Lesson: don't try to be clever.
Right we shit on Reddit and deal with the same weird moderation in the fediverse.
It's just called moderation. Since we cannot show that it could be done better, owing to a mix of human nature, the nature of the Internet and discussions on it, and how moderation generally works.
Public modlogs help.
They can also be entertaining. Like there was one post removed within the past week where the mod said "don't threaten mod action", so I was curious and looked it up on the log. The guy had taken offense to something that wasn't offensive (heard what they wanted to hear instead of what was said) then gave an ultimatum that they either apologize and retract within an hour or they'll report them and an investigation on their comment history would happen. It was hilarious.
It's people and society. Centralized control doesn't work. A better moderation system would let the individual manage his own filtering, instead of being involuntarily "helped".
People already can block individuals easily though. But I agree on the problem with centralized control. Preemptively removing posts/comments should only be done for things that clearly violate rules or are such low quality that it is very likely seeing the content would be to the detriment of most viewers, such as spam or advertisements.
It would be interesting to be able to vote on tags that apply to content so you could ignore stuff that was political for example, but that would just be abused more than current systems.
And by weird, you mean shit, right?
That's just how moderation works. People suck, the platform doesn't really matter in that sense.
I got a comment removed for calling an obvious troll a troll. I was told to report the trolls. So I did. I was banned and the troll is still trolling. I've also been called a troll by a troll and reported that I was called a troll and their comment is still there. Some bad actor mods out there for sure, bringing down the good ones.
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Thank you for sharing this. Mod abuse is both important to call out and entertaining to see when drama unfolds.
Worldnews is now IDF fan club full of bots and morons.
One of the worst human qualities is people who are proven wrong with facts, but their pride is wounded so they lash out and double down. I absolutely can't stand it...
I'm convinced the primary moderation goal is expunging any comment that could remotely contribute to LLM 'racial bias' - and given the mods are humans, they want to expend the least effort possible in the performance of their roles, so practically any statement along the lines of '$nouns are $adjective' gets hammered without a thought.
I got banned from r/firstimpression due to super generic “nsfw activity.” A woman had posted a picture of herself in green and brown clothing and sitting amongst some flowers and her post was titled “What do you think my job is?”
My ban-worthy cheeky comment was “wood nymph”
Oh no!! Anyway,..
I got banned years ago from r/funny because I was browsing on "new" (like I do here), responded to a post with a lame joke within minutes after it posted, then the powers that be decided the poster was a spammer, and banned me too. I asked them why they banned me, but got absolutely nothing in response. It turns out, though, that being banned from there made absolutely no difference to my Reddit experience.
Now that Reddit is a public company, and courting income from paid official subreddits, it's only a matter of time before there is a huge class-action lawsuit over their uneven moderation policies. Especially if companies start steering a good portion of their customer interaction there. It is super unfair to be cut off from legitimate customer service because of a power-tripping mod in a totally different part of Reddit.
Besides, I hit on the best way to ensure I never get banned from Reddit: I don't go there anymore.
Yep I lost my 7 year old account now am never using that shitshow again hopefully lemmy attracts a bigger audience I love discussing some video games tips and tricks and lemmy's mobile interface is way way better than reddit's
my acccunt was like 10 years old, with karma to match. i still got it, bu i havent logged in, because i am just furious about the whole banning thing for rules i didnt break. as soon as i get banned unjustly from feddit, i am out as well.
Oh you got it back? How?
i was not perma banned, just time out. but of all the instances i was reprimanded, i was in the wrong maybe 2 to 3 times. last time, there was this girl who would make post about me harassing her, and she would go back and alter what she wrote, delete her posts and what not. so in the end, i had like droves of people harassing me.
she was angry because i asked if she was fat; but i only asked her that because she had huge trouble with her adhd meds, and i wanted to find out if she was diabetic without knowing. she was a binge eater and conscious about your weight.
so, in the end, i was ableistig, misogyn, racist and what not. she claimed i was stalking her posts. but i simply commented in the post that she made about ME. i commented she was lying.... i was defending myself.
well. *'*ck that.
the whole thing, along with other incicidents, made me so goddamn angry that it was unhealthy. unhealthy in a psyscho way. so i decided to drop out.
i began to fear looking at my messages, began to fear logging in. not because i am a coward, but because the stuff stresses you out to no end.
i tried to delete my account and my comments, but i was not successfull in finding a good tool.
i posted a lot of content that helps people out (i hope...) by informing them about meds, adhd, autism and stuff. well, informing them is far fetched, i wrote about my expiriences, so people don't have to make them.
makes me mad that some one doens not care about the mods, the site, the users, and now seeks to profit from the stuff i wrote out of compassion.
oh, and people said i was condoning child porn, rapists, and what not, because I said that burning child molesters and rapists alive is not okay, that just makes you a monster as well.
(a rape victim burned her tormenter alive, which is tragic in countless ways. so people started saying that we should do that legally, i mean, as sentence by a court of law and stuff. I think the victim has the right to cruel revenge, but that shouldn't be modus operandi of our justice system )
With all these stories of malicious or incompetent mods, it makes me wonder if Russian trolls managed to get a bunch of mod positions on Reddit and mod to frustrate and hurt or kill communities to further division. Because it sounds a bit beyond a power trip or normal incompetence.
Though it could be due to volume and lack of effective tools and mods just dealing with their queues with batch actions and ignoring a lot of messages.
I suppose there could also be some mods trying to kill it from the inside after deciding they didn't want to die on the "set sub private" hill once the admins started taking subs back. Guerrilla modding.
Either way it's a shitshow.
I got banned multiple times because the person reporting me accused me of writing things i didn't even write.
mods didn't check, didn't care.
I got banned from r/mildlyinteresting like 10 years ago because I posted a picture of an oil spill in a parking lot that looked like a reindeer. Didn't break the rules, no idea why I got banned, every time I've tried to appeal they sent me through like eight moderators and nothing ever got done, and same as you, they don't even reply anymore.
I got banned because someone asked what the fairly infamous bible passage about being hung like a donkey / emissions of horses was all about. So I put it in modern language. Unfortunately the passage is Ezekiel calling out the people of Judea for acting "like whores". Perma banned. Failed appeal. Patently obvious to anyone who can read what the context of the conversation was.
Reddit mods and frankly Lemmy mods don't appear to have much of reading comprehension beyond 10th grade, ie they read what saw and that's the end of it. They don't under literary concepts at all.
They also love the vibe checks... All I just didn't like how you said it type thing...
Are these supposed to be adult people or do have children modding lol
Got site banned for calling out and even providing evidence that the mods on /r/steamdeck were abusing their power and treating users like shit. It was "harassment."
I just made a new account, and they haven't even realized it yet. I want to do something crazy that highlights how fucked reddit is, just don't know what or how to do so at the moment.
Thier admins and mods are incompetent
Democracy is clearly the only proper way to manage a society, yet we continue to use totalitarian dictators. Weird.
and democrcy is a flawed system anyways, but somehow still the best
Several mods or bots can't even comprehend grammar.
I can't even call steam deck on windows dumb without getting SITE banned, SITE
really, thats messed up. they drive away their users just for a power thrill.
They banned me cus I told someone who was mocking the Uvalad School shooting to "Choke on butter" I was banned for several days, and i was fine with that- Until MOTHER FUCKING OPERA GX- SIGNED ME IN AUTOMATICALLY TO MY ALT. Now im fucking perma banned, and reddit WONT ANSWER ME NO MATTER WHAT I DO- Im so desperate at this point. I really really really want my account back and I miss being in all of the active forum communities there. Lemmy just isnt the same
I really really hope theres some kinda way to get my account back. I appealed 20 times, not a single answer
I wouldn't hold my breath. Reddit appeal system is known to be very bad.
scuse me while I cry about it just one more time this week 🥲
You're going to be okay 🙂
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It's horrible. I contributed content and comments for so many years for them. I also bought award coins from them and then they closed the program and literally stole my money. Ultimately, I got banned just recently for saying something that absolutely was not against their policy, it was misinterpretted, and now they won't reply to my appeal.
I got permabanned by commenting on a spoilt kid. I said he deserves a smack.
Probably a good thing you got banned for advocating for child abuse.
You should know the most reddit admin has 🫏 🧠 by the way. Not point arguing with dead 🧠.
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