People complaining about the bot are worse than the bot itself. Every comment thread or post about it (probably including this one) inevitably turns into people debating the bot’s usefulness.

If you’re someone who hates the bot, do what everyone has already said 10 trillion times: block it.

All the comment threads and posts by users wanting to “take it down” solve nothing. Just stop. It’s so irritating having to scroll past millions of comments of the same tired debate.

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[–] 32 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I'm always amused at the downvotes it collects. People hammering a button to acknowledge their dislike of something they are choosing to not block.

My only problem with these bots is that I don't want them counted toward comments - I hate going in to find the only comments are bots.

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  • [–] 18 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Blocking it does not stop it's misinformation. I'm not opposed to bots or it's layout in a comment. I'm opposed to having a blatantly biased source masquerading as an unbiased gatekeeper of credibility. You cannot block that.

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  • [+] -6 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    What is your evidence it is a blatantly biased source?

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  • [–] 17 points 2 years ago

    Their own site. First of all, political scientists don't use "left center" and "right center." Because that puts a loaded word first and effectively erases anything after it. Leaving only left and right.

    Second their left/right scheme puts objective facts based reporting in the "left center" category. Organizations like NYT, BBC, WAPO, etc. and in "right center" they're sneaking in libertarian organizations that want to destroy the federal government and empower corporations in its place. Which gives them credibility they don't deserve while conveniently painting objective reporting as left wing. They even rated a GOP campaign organization as "right center". It's literal political advertisement.

    Third, their credibility ratings are highly subjective and rely on cherry picked evidence. For example NYT and Guardian have similar numbers of failed fact checks. But NYT gets highly credible while Guardian gets mixed. The same level as Breitbart; who has double the number of failed fact checks.

    Really the more you actually check, the worse it gets.

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  • [–] 22 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I'm surprised we haven't seen an alternative news community on another instance than Lemmyworld and lemmy.ml emerge as an alternative without such bot.

    Seems like the LW mods/admins don't want to change their opinion on the bot, so the expected reaction would be to see people leave those communities for others.

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  • [–] 22 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Blocking it does not stop it's misinformation. I'm not opposed to bots or it's layout in a comment. I'm opposed to having a blatantly biased source masquerading as an unbiased gatekeeper of credibility. You cannot block that.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

    The irony of a comment reviewing the bias of some article is that someone else will always claim that the review is also biased. It's inevitable and unavoidable.

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  • [–] [S] -3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child)

    So you’re smart enough to realize it’s “blatantly biased” but others aren’t so we need to get rid of it?

    It’s kind of like Lemmy users don’t understand that this is a decentralized platform where you can connect to it and do whatever you want. The whole point is for it to not be regulated by any one entity.

    The way you can “take it down” is by building a better instance (or sponsoring someone else to), maintain/manage it, etc. It’s strange to me that you expect your instance operator and/or the platform at large to implement blocking a specific bot just for you, especially when your account is basically on the default “how to use Lemmy” instance.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    So we shouldn't fight misinformation? We should just cede that space to whoever shows up with a bot?

    No thank you.

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  • [–] [S] -1 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    So I’m no expert on the bot but it seems like the hard right crowd are the ones crying about it being misinformation.

    You’re on a federated, P2P (as far as instances go) platform not expecting to find misinformation from a bot; meanwhile you got all sorts of “user” accounts posting fake propaganda every other post and real humans with equally problematic opinions but for some reason the bot that might be inaccurate (maybe because it’s a BOT) seems to be the breaking point.

    I’ve said my piece, I’m not really so interested in this topic to keep drilling down endlessly. The whole thing is fucking stupid.

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    I did but that doesnt remove the comment counter for the bots comment from the post feed. So i think there is something to engage with but nope, just the shitty bot that serves no actual purpose to begin with. Nobody double checks and audits the bot so its completely worthless.

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  • [–] 10 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Blocking it does not stop it's misinformation. I'm not opposed to bots or it's layout in a comment. I'm opposed to having a blatantly biased source masquerading as an unbiased gatekeeper of credibility. You cannot block that.

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  • [+] -9 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Bruh please dont copy and paste the comment everywhere.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Are you operating three accounts?

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  • [–] -5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Can we get the same answer you gave last time, but in bold this time?

    Seriously, you made your point, you don't have to make it to every person you disagree with.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 years ago

    If I want to have the same conversation with ten different people that's my problem. I'm not going to find ten different ways to say the same thing. If you want to avoid this then people shouldn't make top level comments that have the same message either. It's pretty hypocritical to say they're allowed to do that but I'm not allowed to respond to them in separate threads.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Blocking it does not stop it’s misinformation. I’m not opposed to bots or it’s layout in a comment. I’m opposed to having a blatantly biased source masquerading as an unbiased gatekeeper of credibility. You cannot block that.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I have never ever even seen that bot.

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  • [+] -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 child)
  • [+] -22 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    You are the same type of person who still thinks Helldivers 2 is fun

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  • [–] [S] -4 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I’m not a gamer, I’d rather build something.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Then you're missing out.

    You can do both. Sometimes at the same time!

    And most likely without some kind of smug sense of superiority over helldivers 2 players of all things like the other guy.

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 2 years ago (2 children)

    Sorry if my shortened comment felt smug to you. I originally starting explaining that while gaming I oftentimes get frustrated and want to reprogram the game rather than play it, but I was distracted so I shortened it quickly. No offense intended.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Oh no, I meant the other guy saying "you're one of those people who enjoys helldivers 2" in a way that's clear he's trying to say it sucks and he's better than that.

    You didn't come off as smug.

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