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[–] [email protected] 32 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Just look at some of the vehicles that aren't burt out. Some of them look more or less fine at first glance. Notice that all their tires are flat.

I remember seeing a video filmed by a Russian who's vehicle had been hit by a HIMARS strike, and he showed how the vehicle looked fine at a distance, but up close you could see that the whole thing was perforated by tiny holes. These little holes were made by thousands of small tungsten balls moving fast enough to pierce clean through the engine block.

It appears that all those flat tires are indicating that those entire trucks, and anyone who was on them, are similarly perforated.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 months ago

Or, hear me out, ALL Russian vehicles have flat tires by default.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Was it this one?
https://t.me/liveukraine_media/12694

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More tungsten holes
https://t.me/combatfootageua/13428

Fired from a Leopard
https://t.me/combatfootageua/12291

GMLRS Alternative Warhead Engineer & Manufacturing Development Phase Test & Evaluation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5h7BkCj5rI

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago (3 children)

The secret of the M30A1 lies in a huge number of tungsten BBs arranged around an explosive core – about 182,000 of them. The design is from a technology known as Lethality Enhanced Ordnance developed by Orbital ATK, later acquired by Northrop Grumman. This approach uses computer modeling to calculate the optimum size, number, density and placement of fragments to ensure that a warhead produces the maximum possible effect against a specific type of target. The developers claim that the M30A1 produces the same sort of lethality as the cluster warhead. This blanketed an area of over four football fields per rocket, so a salvo of six would blanket half a square mile.

Imagine riding along, you're suddenly on the floor somehow and everyone is dead or dying around you.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago

As much as I don't like such advanced weapons capable of killing hundreds or thousands in a single blow, they are used in the "appropriate" way and are so much better than cluster munitions that leave behind deadly unexploded granades

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

Jesus wept. I've always had a morbid fascination with weapons and this one definitely "satisfies" the morbid part. I agree with the other person. This is better than cluster munitions since it will result in far fewer civilian casualties, but it's also tremendously fucked. It makes me feel about as icky as thermobaric bombs do.

I hate to think what the improvement to this idea will look like. I'm sure it will be improved upon, since Northrop now has plenty of field data showing the effectiveness of this design.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

We really put a lot of time and effort to find the best ways to kill each other.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Thats the one! I had forgotten how you could see all the punctures in the windshields. But when not a single tire survives, it indicates a very high density of shrapnel. I saw someone else commenting here that this could have been a Bradley, and while a Bradley could probably also have decimated an unarmoured column like this one, I don't think we would be seeing this kind of damage if that was the case.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I only saw all the corpses inside those seemingly intact vehicles, didn't even notice the tires.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The corpses could in principle have been placed there after the strike, or could have been killed by machine gun fire to the back of the truck. To me, what makes HIMARS the likely culprit here is the tires.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

Probably, I agree with your reasoning. I was just dumbfounded by the massacre and my first thought was that they had been collecting corpses in the trucks, but after a few trucks like that, that made no sense anymore. Then you provided the probable answer in the comments.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Ooof. Those trucks full of 200's

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago (2 children)

This is likely the deadliest strike on Russian forces since the beginning of Russia's invasion.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago

Probably since they himarsed that new conscript party.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

I'm thinking of the 2023 new years strike

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago

All the civilians driving around trying to get on with their day swerving around brunt up trucks full of dead bodies. I can't imagine living in a warzone.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago

what is he saying?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

This could have been done by a single Bradley or similar. Getting caught with their pants down seems to be standard procedure for the Russians.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

Too much area